I've read and heard everyone of the items that he's listed many times on the standard news channels. But there are substantial caveats with every item listed as well, and they are an even more important part of the story. ------------------------ This goes to what Mr Card has said, in the 'Yes, but' part of his article. ------------------------ If we do this right, the United States is likely to be integrally involved in the development of Iraq for the next 30 to 50 years. If we do this wrongly, we will abandon them in the next 2 to 3 years and we will have to revisit the area many times in the future. ---------------- 30 to 50 years may be an exaggeration. We will see. In any case, I agree with Mr Ritenour's statement that even if 1/3 true is it pretty good. An from what Wirt has stated, it appears to be at least 1/3 true. * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *