>> and of curse, once they were cheaper to buy, hp decided to use them for everything. :-) << Crackin' up..... now, another possibility for a lengthy OT: Intentional clever typographical pun, a subtle freudian slip, or a bald-faced editorial comment? Actually, I suspect the fan problem is an insidious attempt by HP to force a precipitous migration to something else in order to counter heroic 3K loyalty by an assault upon the ears and sensibilities. Guess what... it won't work! * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *