I'm thinking about dropping myself, but ... There's Just SO DARN MUCH hot air that I'd be doing the frozen tundra of Illinois a disservice! I'd be happy to repost the coordinates for Chicago so all the HOT AIR can be put to better use! Please, please....good folks are being chased off the list....enough already!! Agreeing to disagree could work here... Al Karman Director of Information Technology [log in to unmask] * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *