Earlier I wrote: >>> 27. Ignition switches on the dashboard. > seen in movies only [so I guess that counts as "told about"] then I realized, "hey, I drive a PRIUS now" -- the "ignition" switch doesn't crank a starter anymore, it just sends a signal to the onboard computer that "the car should now be on"(*), and could JUST as easily be an actual "push to start" switch [I even read an article online whereby somebody has "hacked" their car's system so that it recognizes the sequence "driver door open; driver door close; seat belt inserted" and starts the car /WITHOUT/ the key -- and to top it off, he's added a proximity scanner/keycard, so he literally "walks up to his (locked) car, it unlocks /for him/, he opens the door, gets in, and drives away" all without pulling out a key or hitting a dongle switch...] Tom (*) the keyswitch still reacts like a "normal" car in that you can hold it "turned to start" until you hear the engine start, but (a) the engine doesn't always need to start [though this is rare; a recent discussion on the yahoo group "prius_technical_stuff" explains why], and (b) I've often flipped it "just enough to register", and 9 times out of 10 it is enough for the car to recognize the signal and start -- only rarely am I "too quick"... * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *