Shahan, Ray ([log in to unmask]) wrote: : I'd like to sit next to Mr. Matloff while he explains to an unemployed : U.S. tech worker why the tech job overseas is not really an issue to the : unemployed worker here. : In his "age discrimination/H-1B e-newsletter", Dr. Matloff states that the majority of the IT work going overseas is mainly call center support and transaction processing. He states that only a small part of software development is being relocated overseas, and expects that trend to hold. His view is NOT reflected by comments in the comp.software-eng and comp.software.testing, and other forums. It's hard to tell, since there's no government agency mandated to monitor offshore job relocations and their impact on tax reveues. The BLS stopped publishing IT jobless data after January, 2002, claiming they didn't want to release data that they weren't sure was adequate. The low cost of IT services in Asia is mentioned as a downward pressure on the price of services here: http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/021023/economy_usa_morganstanley_2.html Morgan Stanley: Deflation Risk High "Reuters Morgan Stanley: Deflation Risk High Wednesday October 23, 6:40 am ET "SINGAPORE (Reuters) - The risk of deflation in the United States is high and rising, Morgan Stanley's chief economist Stephen Roach said on Wednesday. The goods sector in the U.S. is already in a deflationary cycle, and the prices of services will fall as the sector becomes more globalized, U.S.-based Roach told a seminar in Singapore. "As globalization spreads from goods to services, there is a case for the low inflation U.S. economy being hit with a post-bubble recession," he said. "The case for U.S. deflation is high and rising." Roach said the United States was extremely open to global competition, and a large proportion of its imported goods came from Asia, which is experiencing deflation. Global deregulation, surging cross-border mergers and acquisitions, and the low cost of IT services in Asia could add to pressures on the prices of services. And with U.S. inflation already at a 48-year low, the risks were higher, he said. "The cushion we get from services is getting thinner and thinner, and in the context of the most intense deflationary cycle we have seen in tradeable goods. This is why I worry about deflation." On the risks of a double-dip recession in the United States, Roach said: "We came very close last spring with one percent growth, we will probably come closer this (third) quarter...." Stephen Roach predicted the recession back in early 2001... http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/3296285.htm Reuters Wire | 05/19/2002 | Doomsayers Ring Alarm Bells on Recovery "NEW YORK - (Reuters) - As the giant U.S. economy zooms out of its first recession in a decade, some doomsayers keep sounding alarm bells that the rebound is poised to sour into a deeper funk -- a so-called "double-dip" recession. The grim scenario goes something like this: consumer spending stumbles, unemployment shoots higher, stocks head for another nosedive, dormant inflation turns into suffocating deflation. And the Federal Reserve, having already slashed short-term rates to 40-year lows of 1.75 percent to spur growth, will have little room left to cut rates any more. "The odds of a double-dip in the U.S. economy are not nearly as low as you have been led to believe," warned Stephen Roach, chief economist at Morgan Stanley. He was a lone voice in predicting recession in early 2001 and for months, has argued persistently that a return to recession is on the way..." --Jerry Leslie (my opinions are strictly my own) Note: [log in to unmask] is invalid for email * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *