Michael... I hold your same position at NEORUG (Northeast Ohio). We are all dealing with these same issues. The reason most folks are planning to migrate away from MPE is that HP won't support it any longer. Pretty sound reasoning. They think the risk is too high to plan to stay with MPE over the long haul. >I use the word "Emotionally" because I think that when you really think >this through, in most cases you'll see that staying with M.P.E. is the >best choice, at least for the next 10 years. Many would disagree with this, of course. It will be hard to convince company leaders to stay on a platform whose vendor is dropping it. Over the last 10-15 years, software vendors have developed fewer and fewer applications that run on MPE. The trend continues. >It seems most of the Regional Users Groups >members have lost interest in attending RUG meetings, anyone opinions of >'Why' is most welcome. In years past HP itself heavily promoted the RUGs. Today, they do next to nothing. Additionally, many IT folks now have multiple operating systems to manage. That dilutes the interest and attention to HP, MPE, and the RUG meetings. In the coming months, HP is sponsoring a e3000 Transition Tour. Yours (Houston) is on Nov 14th. The agenda includes topics on "migration" and "transition", but nothing on "homesteading." Yes, in the past it was much different, but now HP is there to help us all get off of MPE and onto something else, they hope HP-UX. ...Dave -----Original Message----- From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [HP3000-L] HP RUG's Recently, I have been appointed to the BOD of Greater Houston RUG, Vice Chair of M.P.E., on a temporary basis until the next election. I would like to have someone like 'Wirt' speak about the reasons to stay with M.P.E. (I did read Wirt's reasoning on the AICS web-site), or maybe someone from the OpenMPE. BOD. Also some other migration options, like Linux, RM-COBOL or GNU COBOL, HP-Eloquence, QCTERM, using Advanced Telnet. Additionally I would like to see the High dollar solution of migrating from M.P.E. to HPUX, Oracle, because that seems to be what a lot of users want to do. Heck, we may even bring in an I.B.M. solution. I would like the M.P.E. potion of our upcoming meeting to be geared toward both Migrating off the M.P.E. platform, and Staying on the M.P.E. platform. For the following reasons: 1. Our mission statement is basically to represent the Users of HP computers. 2. Some of our users would like to stay on the M.P.E. platform, but don't see how. 3. Most M.P.E. users seem to be in favor of Migrating off of the M.P.E. platform. The reason for the favored choice to Migrate off M.P.E. is because they have not been given a better option, or they have an emotionally motivated enthusiasm to go to a different/popular platform. I use the word "Emotionally" because I think that when you really think this through, in most cases you'll see that staying with M.P.E. is the best choice, at least for the next 10 years. Ten years from today many more options will exist. It seems most of the Regional Users Groups members have lost interest in attending RUG meetings, anyone opinions of 'Why' is most welcome. I have a theory or two myself. Is it the content of the shows? Is it a M.P.E. problem, or HPUX, or both? Could it be related to the separation of M.P.E. & HPUX users?What M.P.E. content would you like to see at the next RUG meeting?What would it take to get you to attend? -- Michael Anderson Spring Independent School District 16717 Ella Boulevard Houston, Texas 77090-4299 office: 281.586.1105 fax: 281.586.1187 - * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html * * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *