Hi John. Thanks for your message. I have tried using TEXT and KEEP, and seem to be getting closer. I called TEXT on my spool file, and then tried the following eight variations of the KEEP command: O> keep bt1;rec=auto O> keep bt2;rec=auto;nocctl O> keep bt3;rec=auto;expand O> keep bt4;rec=auto;expand;nocctl O> keep bt5;rec=auto,,,binary O> keep bt6;rec=auto,,,binary;nocctl O> keep bt7;rec=auto,,,binary;expand O> keep bt8;rec=auto,,,binary;expand;nocctl I believe I am getting closer-- what I have found is that with all these varients, if I FTP the file in ASCII mode, I get much better PCL. It now prints properly, except for one problem: and extra formfeeds are inserted, causing the print output from a single page to get divided over two pages. (This happens for every page in the job.) Very strange. I am digging around some more, but thought I would check to see if you or anyone else reading this list/group had any thoughts. thanks again for your help. --bill PS-- the different versions of this keep command create output files with slightly different sizes-- but I am not detecting any difference in the actual printed output. Also-- they all behave in the same way, in that FTPing them in binary mode corrupts them, FTPing them in ascii mode give me a print file which is almost perfect, save for the problem described above. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *