John points out: "By the way, a mule and a donkey aren't the same thing." And he's right, a mule is half-assed. I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist. Ray Shahan "Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans", John Lennon * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *