I am curious why it matters what HP said or when? They feel free to change policies radically in even short periods of time anyway. It seems to me there was an example just a short time ago from August 2001 to November 14, 2001 ... Now what was that about again ... * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *