Michael - And please add Transact to your list! I'm no longer developing applications, but remember with great respect the bottom line of the 'old' HP: Honor and respect your customers' investment in their OWN businesses, because the best selling tool to win new customers is a group of loyal and SATISFIED old ones! Sadly, the 'old' customers, at least those can remain viable businesses faced with the need to re-invest in their years of applications development, particularly when many of the original 'development' minds are no longer there to bail them out, have been thoroughly encouraged to seek greener, or more respectful, pastures. * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *