I called HP and asked them to send me a copy of the JDBC software (a middleware product). They sent me to the contracts person who couldn't find it on their lists. They wanted a product number. I don't see a product number on some of the product descriptions See: http://www.hp.com/products1/mpeix/development/jdbc.html Shouldn't work this way. Yeah, I know, I downloaded it from a web site. But think of how I explain this to the auditors . . . * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *