Follow this link for an article on an Open Skies customer dropping them. If the description of the functionality/limitations of Open Skies is true, then I don't blame them: http://www.informationweek.com/832/vanguard.htm I checked and Vanguard Air is listed as a customer on www.openskies.com. If Open Skies is supposed to showcase HP hardware, software, and services, and the software is limited in the areas mentioned in the article, then I'm embarassed for HP. * To join/leave the list, search archives, change list settings, * * etc., please visit http://raven.utc.edu/archives/hp3000-l.html *