I just tried it, just in case the capability had been added without my realizing it, and the cntl-A does *not* work from another terminal that has taken the console. This was by design - the designers thought it best not to have someone be able to shut down your system remotely. Perhaps your site had Telamon's Console Engine... -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 10:45 AM To: John Clogg Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Locked Console Well, it's been years since I've done it, so my memory may be faulty. But I could have sworn that I'd done [CTRL-A] =SHUTDOWN using the :CONSOLE command on dial-up lines with a PC running Reflection 7. I know it wasn't the remote console port, as we kept that connected to a support modem for HP to use and it was disabled unless we needed PICS to dial in. I always came in through our modem pool as LDEV 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, or 28. Again, I could have sworn I remembered doing the shutdown and then calling the computer room to tell the operator whether I wanted a warmstart or coolstart since I lost access to the console at that point. But maybe I'm just remembering shutting down everything else (we had a very complicated application shutdown procedure) before having the operator do the actual system shutdown. As I said, it's been a long time, and I can't test it now, as I haven't had access to a 3000 since 1997. Wayne John Clogg <[log in to unmask]> on 01/30/2001 10:16:41 AM Please respond to John Clogg <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] cc: (bcc: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec) Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Locked Console This isn't exactly true. Yes, you can reboot via dial-in if you are using remote console support, but that is essentially hooking your remote console port (LDEV 21) in parallel with LDEV 20. Just using the CONSOLE command to take the console won't work because you can't do a cntl-A nor a cntl-B. If the console port is hung, rather than the terminal, you may be faced with an ungraceful shutdown. -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Brown [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 7:39 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Locked Console Since you can take the console, I would try clearing the main console with :ABORTJOB and :ABORTIO, and even cutting the power to the console OFF and ON again, before rebooting. That has sometimes cleared up "hung console" problems for me. But if necessary, then yes, you can reboot from another console. In fact, I've rebooted systems from home over a dial-up line. The only problem is that once the system starts coming back up, it will revert to the original console, so you want to make certain you have a working terminal on that port when you reboot. Wayne "Driscoll, Ken" <[log in to unmask]> on 01/30/2001 09:02:03 AM Please respond to "Driscoll, Ken" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] cc: (bcc: Wayne Brown/Corporate/Altec) Subject: [HP3000-L] Locked Console Hello List, We have a locked console on our 3000 979. I issued the commands to unlock, CTRL - S, then CTRL - Q with no results. It is not affecting the users and I can take the console. Has anyone rebooted the 3000 from another console? Is it possible? Any ideas? Thanks in advance Ken Driscoll MAHP Operations Ph: (319) 584-4862 Fax (319) 556-5134 [log in to unmask]