"Wayne R. Boyer" said > Also the press has done a poor job of explaining that saving electicity at > for example, 3AM does nothing because the peak power demand is in the middle > of the day. Do other states have meters that track power usage at different > time periods in a day and consequently paying a lower rate at night? CA > doesn't do that. Not allowing such meters is just another dumb thing that CA > government has done. Interesting application of this is with the Steenbras power project, near Cape Town, South Africa, where the water from a dam in the mountains powers hydro-electric generators on its way to a reservoir lower down. In off-peak periods, the generators run in reverse to pump the water back to the higher dam. See http://www.earthlife.org.za/ghouse/gfiles/energy/ss3.htm The world's biggest batteries? /Hans