Usual suspect Michael G. makes public confession that he has also lived on the cheap: ;-) > I've stayed at this particular Motel 6 on a couple of trips > to the area (the last time was about two years ago), and it > was fine. Nothing fancy, but it was clean and relatively > quiet. ........... If Michael thought it was O.K., I am confident all will be well.... clean and quiet are the two main requirements; > ........ If you have a vehicle to get around in, this would > be a good choice. This Motel 6 is close enough that even two-way taxi fare each day is probably less than renting a car (unless you've got some really good coupons)... if several people stay here and we can share taxi, then daily transport disappears in the noise. ..... besides that, prior experience has shown that a number of SIG3000 / IPROF alumni on corporate expense accounts are many times more than willing to drop us cheapsters off on their way to the higher rent district hotels.... :-) SIDEBAR CA gripe; and another reason for not renting a car in CA unless you have to: Apparently a few years ago the CA Legislature passed a law that allows rental car agencies and whoever etc. to ask for not only your "major credit card" and driver's license, but *also* your SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. Last time I got rental car in CA most but not all were already doing this.... I ain't giv'en no rental car receptionist all three of those numbers unless I absolutely have no other choice; that's making it as easy as possible for some shady character to try and rip me off.... Ken Sletten