Our software updates come through the HP Federal Business Center in Rockville, MD. I put in our order for 6.5 PP2 a couple weeks ago. This morning I just got a call from our HP contract coordinator, and she sez: 6.5 PP2 is "temporarily out of stock".... huh ????.... Since I was planning to update while most of the rest of the Base is shut down for a week at the end of this month (although think I'm gonna check on the inbound buffer pool problem that Carl just reported (even though we do NOT do token ring) ), I sure hope this "out of stock" condition is indeed VERY temporary... Anybody else (especially non-government sites) get same above answer; and / or know how "temporary" this might be ?? Ken Sletten