I propose for your consideration and feedback that Java makes much more sense today than it did just two year ago. Reading up on Java I am struck by the different tone in technical magazine articles and books between those published in say 1997-1998 and this year. Reading and talking to three web developers indicates to me that what was true for Java just two years ago is much less true today. Two web developers told me that they wouldn't use Java but on closer questioning revealed that their reasons had much to do with the weight of "legacy" code they had in other languages (Python, JScript, etc). Has any one else noticed this trend? One advantage to Java, IMO, over these other languages is it's generality. It can be used for a number of task including server side programming, client side programming, and general apps. So instead of having to learn several languages a programmer need only be proficient in one -- Java. Borland's very popular JBuilder environment for instance is now written in Java. Java is also object oriented and is considered a well designed language. Problems for Java: 1. Speed 2. The powerful tools like JSP, Enterprize Java, etc are fairly new and tools are only begining to penetrate the market place. It appears that the speed issues are much improved but Java may still lag behind some of the other solutions. I don't have numbers, so I don't know by how much. -- Cortlandt Wilson Cortlandt Software Mountain View, CA (650) 966-8555 http://www.cortsoft.com (MANMAN Resources Guide) begin 666 Cortlandt [log in to unmask] M0D5'24XZ5D-!4D0-"E9%4E-)3TXZ,BXQ#0I..E=I;'-O;CM#;W)T;&%N9'0- M"D9..D-O<G1L86YD="!7:6QS;VY ;F5T8V]M#0I%34%)3#M04D5&.TE.5$52 M3D54.F-O<G1L;F1T0&EX+FYE=&-O;2YC;VT-"E)%5CHR,# P,#DQ-%0Q.3(T 0,C!:#0I%3D0Z5D-!4D0-"@`` ` end