John reminded me: > How about Keven Miller's idea that the money (with HP > shamed into at least matching it) go to education - introducing > the HP3000 into schools. I realize the money won't go far, > and the logistics would be tough, but I still like it. after I commented: > What we do NOT want: Some enterprising headline writer > coming up with something like: > > "WAKE UP CALL, or JUST a WAKE ??" oops.... sorry.... too many hundred emails multiplexed with doing NEWMIRRSET, NEWMIRRVOL, etc., etc.... Let me revise and extend my previous remarks: I like the "education option" a lot too; for several reasons: (1) It's effectively charity, but it doesn't *feel* that way. (2) It *might* give at least a handful of kids in school early exposure to HP 3000's (in the long run this could be important (remember similar smart move Apple made: Free (or next to free) computers for kids in school; then soak 'em retail when they get out (not so smart, it turned out in the long run) ) ). (3) It is probably one of the few things (maybe the *only* thing) we could come up with where there is at least a little more than a snowball's chance HP (or maybe Client / Phoenix Systems ???? :-) ) might indeed cough up some matching funds (expect main-line companies like HP like to be seen helping educational institutions; great PR for them). (4) For the most part it should be hard to come up with any negative interpretation in the trade rags; *PROVIDING* the whole effort comes across as "expanding the use of an actively promoted platform", and not "swan song for a fading legacy system". BUT: Having said all that: Getting even a few small HP 3000's out to a few colleges and universities is I expect at best a months-long project. Like John said: logistics, logistics, logistics; i.e.: This might be a very good LONG term idea; it does little in the short run (except provide a good PR release that we / HP are *planning* to do it (not minimizing the good PR from that, BTW) ). Sooo....: Off-the-top, on balance (if I can still call myself "balanced" after today) I still come down for some pretty good- sized (at least a half-page or so if at all possible), immediate impact in the WSJ..... If that was combined with an "education option", then think I would try and come up a *few* words to add to my variant of Wirt's http://aics-research.com/wsjad.html ; that briefly mentions the "education component"... I just can't think of a good way to work that in right now; without losing focus in the proposed WSJ ad.... Good idea all by itself, though... Ken Sletten