Hi everyone: Hopefully I am doing this right ! I just joined the the list, but I have been an independent consultant for an excess of 22 years. As a software specialist, I chose to devote my craft to the best OS at the time. This was a time where the HP3000 was the size of fridge, had one user and did less than some of today's cell phones. To this day, I am still working on the same OS, not for any other reason but because it is still the best. Over the last 22 years, languages have come and gone, some have even changed but the ever present reality throughout time has been that MPE was and still is the OS of choice for businesses. Some companies have lost track of this fact while striving to stay with the latest technology. This statement applies to both the User community and by large the vendors. While some vendors have decided to bail out of the MPE environment, other have chosen to stay on and make it work for them. As for the statement by Ian Sargent regarding the availability of usable applications, I must in part disagree. I have worked on several 4th generation languages, Powerhouse from Cognos, Speedware and Autobahn from the Speedware Corporation. Between the two 4gls, my vote goes to Speedware. Their suite of software products have been around from the beginning. At first, Speedware worked only on MPE, but now, it works on just about any OS (and still MPE). One of their latest products is Autobahn; it actually allows a user on the web to interface with information on the HP3000. I have included two quotes generally describing their Speedware/4gl and Autobahn for those who do not know of their products. Speedware/4GL & Speedware/Designer makes an application developer's life easier and a lot more productive-it generates optimized code and automates many boring but necessary programming chores. The Speedware suite includes Speedware/4GL, a complete, 4th-generation platform-independent programming language, and its CASE companion, Speedware/Designer. This complete environment integrates application development, maintenance and enhancement, giving you maximum productivity for creating transaction-oriented applications Speedware's proven technology is platform-independent and can easily encompass client/server and Web environments. Speedware Autobahn is a complete Web development environment. It lets you create new enterprise-scale, mission-critical Web applications or Web-enable existing applications, and operate them in Internet, Intranet and Extranet environments. Speedware Autobahn is based on an n-tier scalable application server that supports multiple Web interfaces, including CGI, NSAPI and ISAPI. The Speedware Autobahn graphical, client-server development tool handles the full application development cycle, including prototyping, program creation, testing and maintenance. Can anyone else add any other applications which have stood the test of time, or who have committed themselves to support the MPE OS for the long run. ? Maybe the idea is to start a thread with all the applications available, with the stipulation that it must not only be supported on the MPE OS platform but be available to the MPE User base. ------------------------ Olav Kappert IOMIT International [log in to unmask] (514)683-2158 ------------------------ ********** Posted from www.3kworld.com