John, <And as far as SQL COMMIT is concerned, I have seen that fail on more than one occasion. But, you've never seen or heard Oracle admit to that happening. That's a bug, not a feature!> To your knowledge is there currently a significant COMMIT bug in Oracle? If so, is it confined to a few platforms or a more general problem? IMO HP appears to treat the dynamic rollback problem more like a DBMS limitation than a bug. In HP's defense, however, my informal polls of HP 3000 programmers reveal that most shops do not consider transactional integrity a important requirement for their applications. I find that rather shocking but there it is. - Cortlandt -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 12:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: HP's Multi-OS strategy includes MPE (take 2) Cortlandt responded to the claim in my ad copy: With over 25 years of innovations your CSY team has improved this platform to the point where it is the most robust OLTP server available. > John, > That is a bold claim. Can you quickly justify it? The "jury" > will be the readers of the ad. > The IT world is full of hype. If anyone else were to claim > that their operating system is THE best in a demanding category > like robustness I would be very suspicious. Lets be sure that > our claims are as reliable as MPE/iX. > I would point out that the dynamic rollback feature of Image -- > Image's functional equivalent of the SQL "COMMIT" statement -- > sometimes fails. Cortlandt, While I see your point, I don't think you get mine. After all, we're NOT preparing a legal brief here. We're trying to spur interest in a platform that deserves a second look. So, I graciously invite "any other computer maker" to refute my claim with hard facts. I don't think you'll find too many takers. Besides, with all the totally overinflated B.S. in the world surrounding computers, I think this line is but a smidgen, if at all. I mean, after all, when it comes to computers, define the word "robust". And as far as SQL COMMIT is concerned, I have seen that fail on more than one occasion. But, you've never seen or heard Oracle admit to that happening. That's a bug, not a feature! John Hornberger Sr. Systems Programmer SPX Corporation