Paraphrasing Ted Ashton: MPE: an HP Invention or from Wirt Atmar: Wisdom Reliability Stability Integrity Intelligence Efficiency Committment Trust This to appear on the reverse side of a neon yellow t-shirt, with an embroidered owl on the front with "HP e3000" below it. I like both approaches, though the attributes one is a bit long. If you have an opinion on the slogan for the reverse (including other suggestions), please send them to me ASAP. Also available would be polos (expecting short sleeves), in cream color for the masses and a special color for CSY only (unless they want the cream color). The slogan would NOT appear on the polos, only the owl and the HP e3000. If I can, the CSY ones will also have "CSY" on them (depending upon setup charges). Estimated cost is $20 plus $4 shipping for the t-shirt, $42 plus $4 shipping for the polos. There's a shipping break for ordering more than one shirt at a time. The polos are not cheap polos, but are very nice. We will have an on-line ordering page available in a couple of days and publish the URL on 3000-L. It will accept credit cards. Our goal is to have the shirts to everyone by the 6th of September, so time is short. I may also have some extras at HP World, but don't count on it! Please order when we announce the page is ready. Rick Gilligan Senior Software Specialist Computer And Software Enterprises, Inc. E-mail: [log in to unmask]