Depends on how you have the system setup. You can specify percentages to allow as a maximum for each one. Say for example, you have a 1000 MB disc (so I like round numbers, so what :) ) You can set transient to use at maximum 50%, and permanent to use say, 75%. That would allow transient to use up to 500 MB, and allow permanent up to 750 MB. Now obviously, both cannot occur. But what can happen is that if you use 200 MB for permanent, and used 500 MB for transient, your transient free space would be 0 MB, but you would still have 300 MB free on the disc, but 0 MB would be available for transient, while 300 MB would be free for permanent. ------------------------------------------------------------- Gary L. Paveza, Jr. Technical Services Manager (302) 761-3173 - voice (800) 217-5808 - pager -----Original Message----- From: Jean Huot [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 3:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [HP3000-L] How can Transient free space be not full on a disk if perm. free space is? I have a defective system disk which I filled up with garbage. When I run disfree.pub.sys, it tells me I have 533 Mbytes free for transient free space and 0 Mbytes for permanent free space. How can that be possilble? Jean Huot Northern Credit Bureaus Inc.