Hi Rich, For a long time now I have used the following to look at the eof of a message file: FILE M=filename,old;gmulti;shr LISTF filename,2 < *M LISTF filename,2 < *M I am not sure, but I believe that LISTFILE does not suffer from this problem, Jeff V will probably make a comment on this. Regards, Tad. Internet From: [log in to unmask] on 13/03/2000 17:24 GMT Pour : HP3000-L cc : ccc: Tad BOCHAN Objet : Re: Message file and listf Chris, Not sure why, but we've seen this many times...Usually doing the first :LISTF is bogus, but following ones are accurate; Seems like something it's flushed until (After) you look at it. RAT _______________________________________________________________________ Rich Trapp "RAT" Managed Business Solutions [log in to unmask] http://www.mbsnav.com Assigned to Design Automation Support at Agilent Technologies (Telnet) or (970) 679-2221 [log in to unmask] Loveland, Colorado, USA _______________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Chris Schofield [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2000 9:41 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Message file and listf Hi Everyone I have a message file defined as follows FILE: CTRIN.CTR.DKA FILE CODE : 0 FOPTIONS: ASCII,VARIABLE,NOCCTL,MSG BLK FACTOR: 1 CREATOR : ** REC SIZE: 300(BYTES) LOCKWORD: ** BLK SIZE: 310(BYTES) SECURITY--READ : ANY EXT SIZE: 258(SECT) WRITE : ANY NUM REC: 0 APPEND : ANY NUM SEC: 1264 LOCK : ANY NUM EXT: 5 EXECUTE : ANY MAX REC: 1031 **SECURITY IS ON FLAGS : NO ACCESSORS NUM LABELS: 0 CREATED : THU, FEB 17, 2000, 11:14 AM MAX LABELS: 0 MODIFIED: MON, MAR 13, 2000, 2:34 PM DISC DEV #: 1 ACCESSED: MON, MAR 13, 2000, 2:35 PM SEC OFFSET: 0 LABEL ADDR: ** VOLCLASS : MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET:DISC I have a C (posix) program waiting on a FREAD on this file. LISTF,2 reports a non zero EOF when I know it is empty. If I run SH.HPBIN.SYS and examine the file using ls then the size is zero bytes (correct !) Then (bizarrely) if exit SH and redo LISTF,2 the EOF is 0 (correct !) I am running MPE 5.5. Any Ideas ? Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by BNP Paribas Group* except where provided for in a written agreement between you and BNP Paribas Group*. Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemination, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender immediately. *BNP Paribas Group is a trading name of BNP SA and Paribas SA Ce message est confidentiel; son contenu ne représente en aucun cas un engagement de la part du groupe BNP Paribas* sous réserve de tout accord conclu par écrit entre vous et le groupe BNP Paribas*. Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion, même partielle, doit être autorisée préalablement. Si vous n'êtes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immédiatement l'expéditeur. *Le groupe BNP Paribas est le nom commercial utilisé par BNP SA et Paribas SA