Al writes: > You may commence beating me to death with a beta release. Let me publicly and sincerely apologize to Al for the tone of my earlier posting. I have heard the sentiments that Al suggested many times before, particularly during the era of the regional user group meeting, 5 to 15 years ago. I have always thought that the idea that vendors (with the obvious exception of HP, who was generally welcomed) should be prohibited from giving talks that directly deal with their best and most deeply analyzed ideas was foolish and shortsighted, and it has been a bone that has been stuck in my craw for a number of years now. Al simply had the misfortune of being the most recent to repeat the thought. My comments were certainly not to be taken personally, although they may well have sounded that way. I am apologetic. Wirt Atmar