Barry's e-mail brought up a couple of good points, most notably the facts
that you do need TurboSTORE/iX to perform a disk-to-disk STORE, and that the
MPE file codes are lost.

Regarding TurboSTORE vs. vanilla STORE, we've been using TurboSTORE for so
long I had forgotten about the differences between the two.

As for the lost file codes, since we always STORE and then RESTORE files, we
don't lose any file codes.

And when we transfer using BINARY, we don't have to enter a record size.  I
don't know if Minisoft does something behind the scenes or if by coincidence
the record length STORE uses is the same as Minisoft's default.  I'll have
to check that one out.

Finally, since we do not use Reflections, I can't comment on the LABELS
format.  It sounds pretty slick, though.

Steve Douglass
BFGoodrich Aerospace


-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Lake [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 3:02 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Copy tape to disk / disk to tape


>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
>Behalf Of Brad Feazell
>Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:02 PM
>Subject: Copy tape to disk / disk to tape
...
>Is there a downloadable utility that will copy a tape to disk and disk to
>tape? If so, I should be able to copy the disk file to the HP3000 in
>Scotland and have them use  the utility to create a tape.

At 2:36 PM -0500 11/18/99, [log in to unmask] responded:
...
>Here's what to do:
>
>        on the source computer type the following:
>
>                FILE OUT=somename;DEV=DISC
>                STORE @[log in to unmask];*OUT;SHOW
>
>        when this is done you will have a disk file called "somename"
>        which will contain all the files in the "aaa" account.

Not all customers have the ability to create store-to-disc files. Vanilla
STORE that comes free with MPE won't do this. You need to purchase at a
minimun TurboSTORE/iX II to get this functionality. If you have it, then I
would also add ";COMPRESS" the STORE command in order to reduce the size of
the archive.

>        Next, you have to transfer your disk-based STORE file to your PC.

Or to your Mac!!

>        (We use Minisoft for terminal emulation...)
>        Make sure you transfer the file to your PC as a BINARY file,
>        not ASCII.

Even better, for those who use Reflection from WRQ, is to use the LABELS
transfer type. (See below for why)

>Now e-mail the file from your PC to the PC in Scotland.
>
>Once Scotland receives the STORE file, they upload it to their HP 3000.
>Again, do a BINARY file transfer, not ASCII.

When you upload a BINARY file, you have to specify the correct record size
from the original. Also, when uploading a BINARY file, you lose the file's
original MPE file code. For example, if you upload a program file, the
"NMPRG" file code is lost, and you have to restore it somehow (with MPEX?),
or the program won't run. The beauty of the WRQ LABELS format is that all
of this information -- record size, file code, etc -- is correctly restore
upon upload.

Barry Lake                                 [log in to unmask]
Allegro Consultants, Inc.                  www.allegro.com
(408)252-2330