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August 1999, Week 4

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Peter Chong <[log in to unmask]>
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Peter Chong <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:25:11 -0700
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Hi, Denys

Here is Joke can not laugh.....

I believe late 70, I installed first HP series 33, It was small but very
excite than
older series III, It  was first MOS technology on Sapphire, HP-IB so on
so...
but Tape drive is so slow compare to old  Series III,
I spend couple of  more hours make first Operational system to customer,

While doing this New System Gen....

MIS Director visit brand new computer room with couple of corporate guest,
and he explaining the Brand New computer to them, He could not find
Computer.

Computer was embedded with table, He trying to find out CPU unit..
He could not find any, I saw he was embarrassed and pointing Big Air
conditioner unit,  which it has lot light switch in front.

he said " This New HP 3000 will do so many thing like...." I can't not
laugh..

Peter C.


Denys Beauchemin <[log in to unmask]> wrote in message
news:F4B1826B1A21D211AEC5006008207AF401E24BAA@dogbert.csillc.com...
> X-no-Archive:yes
> Oh crap, now I have to disagree with Wirt.  He could not have spent
$165,000 on
> a series 33 in 1977, or a million dollars, for the simple reason that in
1977,
> the series 33 did not exist.  It came out in 1979.  The series 33
introduced
> SOS technology (Silicon On Saphirre) and the HP-IB bus to the HP 3000
line.  It
> also required MPE III release 1912 to run this stuff (note the release
number,
> 1912.  This first two digits of this number represent the year, offset
from
> 1960.)  The following MPE III release was 1918 which introduced moving
> consoles, user logging and IMAGE logging.  1918 ran on both the series III
and
> the series 33.  I installed the first series 33 in Canada in the spring of
1979
> and the thing cost about CND$145,000 at the time.  That included the
console,
> 256KB of RAM, a 120MB disk and about 4 ADCC ports.  We added a 7970E Low
Boy
> tape drive almost immediately.  I do not remember what the rate of
exchange was
> at that time, but I think Wirt's estimate is somewhat high, unless he had
lots
> of other stuff on the order.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Denys. . .
>
> Denys Beauchemin
> HICOMP
> (800) 323-8863  (281) 288-7438         Fax: (281) 355-6879
> denys at hicomp.com                             www.hicomp.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Wirt Atmar [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:   Monday, 23 August, 1999 10:39 PM
> To:     [log in to unmask]
> Subject:        Re: Information HP 3000
>
> Gavin wrote:
>
> > Stan wrote:
> >  > If it's the size of a small refrigerator, then it's likely to be one
of:
> >  >
> >  >    30, 33, 40, 42, 52
> >
> >  This sort of suggests that someone ought to setup a photographic
history
> >  of the HP3000 web site somewhere (obvious possibilities being us, AICS,
> >  HP, Interex, or 3kworld.com).
>
> To a small degree, that's already been done. The Series 33 that you see
in:
>
>      http://aics-research.com/hp3000/relperf.html
>
> was our first HP3000.
>
> Worst yet, we still have it! This machine cost me $165,000 in 1977 (about
a
> half-million in today's dollars). I'll be hornswaggolled if I'd ever
> willingly throw away anything that cost that much that came out of my own
> pocket.
>
> Besides that sentimental attachment :-), the machine theoretically still
> works, although it hasn't been turned on in about 10 years. The HP7925
disc
> drive you see in the picture is currently being used as a printer stand,
but
> it would take nothing to roll it back over and reconnect it to the system.
> Moreover, the formica top on the Series 33 is still in excellent condition
> and the machine is used as a true working desk nowadays, perhaps the most
> expensive desk in all of southern New Mexico.
>
> Even worse, Dell Computer recently conducted a search for the "World's
Oldest
> PC" still in operation. Stan pointed the contest out to me. Because of
that,
> I went out and bought a digital camera just for the contest and took
several
> pictures.
>
> Dell announced the contest winner last Thursday. We didn't win. The fellow
> who did win won with an Altair 8800b that is actually a year younger than
> ours, but the rules were that if you won, you had to give your machine to
a
> computer museum. I believe that we really do have the world's oldest PC
still
> in operation -- and odd as it may sound, we still depend on it and I
> couldn't/won't give it up.
>
> The pictures I took for the contest are at:
>
>        http://aics-research.com/altair3.html
>
> We won this Altair at the World's First Computer Fair in March, 1976, in
> Albuquerque, for the best application of the new microcomputers (we built
a
> speech synthesizer than allowed our first Altair, an Altair 8800, to
talk).
> The machine you see in this picture was the first Altair 8800b delievered
> outside of MITS itself.
>
> Bill Gates mentions this Fair prominently in his resume at the Microsoft
> site, stating that he gave the keynote address. I knew Bill fairly well at
> the time, and of all of us that were there, none of us can remember that
> speech. I am reticent to say that it is a case of resume padding, Bill
owning
> half of the world at the moment, but it was a somewhat momentous time,
> looking back at it all.
>
> Stan has lusted after the two Altairs we own for some time now. One of
> private web pages I put up for Stan about a year ago is at:
>
>        http://aics-research.com/altair2.html
>
> I've promised Stan that if anything happens to me, he can have the
Altairs,
> although saying this publicly only makes me all the more nervous.
>
> Wirt Atmar
>

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