Hear, Hear, Scott!
Truer words could not be spoken, either of 3000's,
or (see my earlier post) studebakers, 1000's, tab
soda, et cetera

Frank Letts (aka 'Fast Frank')
http://freeweb.pdq.net/fbt1
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> From: Gates, Scott <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: latest technology
> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:59 AM
>
> I've always described HP-3000's as the pickup truck of computers.  Its
> not particularly sexy, but goes when you need it, hauls what you want,
> and is low maintenance in comparison to AS-400's and the like.
> This is just my $0.02.
> Scott Gates
>
> > ----------
> > From:         Lee Gunter[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To:     Lee Gunter
> > Sent:         Tuesday, May 11, 1999 4:41PM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      Re: lastest technology
> >
> > I agree with Donna in that the product delay is *not* a good thing --
> > my
> > point was that it was strange to hear a sales rep 'kinda' plug the
> > 3K's
> > robustness.
> >
> > I was willing to look at AutoRAID DASD and fibre channel technology
> > over a
> > year ago, but had to choose another (much more expensive) solution
> > which
> > was supported.  With the advent of these (and the Hitachi/HP OEM
> > alliance),
> > we will have a few more choices -- albeit somewhat late in the
> > technology
> > curve.
> >
> > Lee Gunter
> > Regence BlueCross BlueShield of Oregon / Regence HMO Oregon
> > ==========================================================
> > The opinions expressed, here, are mine and mine alone.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Donna Garverick <[log in to unmask]> on 05/11/99 01:24 PM
> >
> > Please respond to Donna Garverick <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > cc:    (bcc: Lee Gunter/BCBSO/TBG)
> > Subject:  Re: lastest technology
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee Gunter wrote:
> >
> > > Richard's post is interesting (and timely) because I just met our
> > new HP
> > > sales rep, yesterday, and his explanation for this phenomenon was
> > very
> > > similar to  Richard's.  He described the delay in rollout of new
> > > technologies to the 3K as a function of MPE's efficiency -- that the
> > care
> > > and feeding of Unix and the resources it typically gobbles in
> > comparison
> > to
> > > MPE require much more attention to that platform (patches, upgrades,
> > etc.)
> > > as newer technologies are rolled for it.
> >
> > (donning my sig sysman hat, again...)
> > you know, we've heard this for years from hp.  and at least for me,
> > this
> > explanation is starting to wear kinda thin.  personally, i don't think
> > being on
> > the 'bleeding edge' is critical but on the other hand the amount of
> > time it
> > takes from product announcement to mpe delivery is much too long.  i
> > want
> > some
> > of this 'new' technology -- and while it's still relatively 'new'.
> > how
> > long
> > did it take fibre channel to get brought over to mpe, for instance?
> > (...and i
> > won't go into a rant about hardware prices for mpe... (aren't we all
> > lucky?)
> > :-)  i wonder if there are any cases of folks (companies) wanting to
> > buy an
> > mpe
> > system (vs unix) but elect to buy unix because they can get the
> > hardware?
> > it
> > would rather seem that hp's stance on bringing new hardware technology
> > to
> > mpe
> > is backward thinking -- especially considering mpe's revitalization.
> > (/hat)            - d
> >
> > --
> > Donna Garverick     Sr. System Programmer
> > 925-210-6631        [log in to unmask]
> >
> > >>>MY opinions, not Longs Drug Stores'<<<
> >