Data Availability before Integrity????
Fallen to the Unix devil, yes you have.:-)
Say it ain't so!!!!

Richard


Trudeau, James L wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Bout wore my snipper out on this one.  But to be to the point:
>
> Through various versions/patches/expresses of the MPE/iX OS
> which they botched and my own occsional/rare/near-non-existant
> clumsiness, there have been times when I reached the "care"
> threshold.  As in "If I kill this process I face dire consequences".
> The consequences although in detail cannot be known but the
> larger view of killing the process is I don't *CARE*.  I want
> it dead.....now!  We will worry about the body count later.
> It's my head on the block and if I wanna choppit well....
> I've wished for years that HP had the HARIKARI command
> available.
>
> Jim - saw in the paper that the railroad misrouted our rain shipment to Ft.
> Worth.  Bodes ill - Trudeau
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Thomas Madigan [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:   Friday, March 12, 1999 11:52 PM
> To:     [log in to unmask]
> Subject:        Re: STUCK JOBS (somewhat longish)
>
> X-no-Archive:yes
>
> <snip>
>
> <cussing and fuming>
>
> "Reboot the system."  Intentionally shut down a *production* system and
> interrupt the work of several hundred users to terminate ONE stuck process.
>
> <shout>
>
> TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE!!
>
> </shout>
>
> <snip>
>
> The time has long passed where HP needs to balance the slight possibility
> of corrupting files against the reality of having to bring everyone's
> production work to a screeching halt to terminate one offender.  Especially
> if MPE is truly meant to be a "high availability" operating system.  IMHO,
> "rebooting the system" is a LAST RESORT measure.  If I ever feel the need
> to practice "rebooting the system," I'll whip together a few NT boxes,
> throw on a couple of Micro$oft apps and wait for the damn thing to crash.
> I shouldn't have to wait long.
>
> See you on the other side, Ross.
>
> </cussing and fuming>
>
> <snip>

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Richard Gambrell
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