Shawn & Patrick after Donna after Barry:

>> >  While we are making out a wish list, what about some type of
>> >  certification that could be administered at a semi-local level (at
>> >  least one per state depending upon the state).   There are CNA's,
>> >  CNE's, and Microsoft Certifications, why not MPE certifications?
> >>
> >> this is a new proposal.  what do the rest of you/us think?  is there
> value
> >> in this?  if you're seeking to hire someone, would you be inclined to
> >> favorably view a certified (groucho sez: we could all be certified :-)
> >> mpe person over a non-certified person?                - d
>
SIDEBAR:  Groucho's diagnosis was probably accurate...    ;-)

> 1) Employers would know what they were getting ....
> 2) The MPE-certified individual becomes more marketable ...
> 3) It becomes another marketing tool for HP!

> Do you know the actual cost of CNE or MSCE training?  .....
> You know how many moron CNE's or especially MSCE's I have seen?

While Shawn is probably correct about CNE or MSCE cert not
being a guarantee of anything, seems like careful employers at
least shouldn't be any worse off than if MSCE didn't exist.  And
it might indeed be a plus from the overall HP 3000 marketing
point of view..  One more thing:  I believe that if you are a MSCE
on Win95 or NT 4.0, when Win98 / NT 5.0 come out you have to
do it *and* pay for it all over again;  and MSCE ain't cheap.  I
would imagine that if there was an MPECE program (MPECE:
"m-piece":  AFTD (acronym for the day, in Govey-speak.  :-)  ) ),
once you had it all you would need is an occasional short
refresher as new releases come out....

Ken Sletten