Item Subject: cc:Mail Text For those of you (like me) working at absorbing some of the details of this thread, you may find this URL helpful: < http://www.dungeon.com/~poota/lpbook/00-toc.html > It's the online version of the book "Laser Printer Secrets," published (apparently) in 1994. As such, the material is slightly dated (it does not include PCL 6), but is quite readable. Of particular interest, consider the sections on: Printer Language < http://www.dungeon.com/~poota/lpbook/01-chp1.html#Printer_Language > HP PCL < http://www.dungeon.com/~poota/lpbook/05-chp5.html#HP_PCL > Adobe PostScript < http://www.dungeon.com/~poota/lpbook/05-chp5.html#Adobe_PostScript > (The discussion on PCL 5e may explain why Stan didn't lose his PCL data.) FWIW. --Glenn Cole Software al dente, Inc. [log in to unmask]