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Jeff Woods <[log in to unmask]>
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Jeff Woods <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 9 Apr 1998 14:43:48 -0500
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>Stan writes:
>> UGLY, and highly misleading!  That's why the decimal point was invented,
>> and why the concept of putting the units next to the value was invented!
>>
>> Which is more clear:
>>
>> ACCOUNT=  SYS         GROUP=  OTHER
>> FILENAME  CODE   ------------LOGICAL RECORD------------ -------SPACE-------
>>                    SIZE  TYP           EOF        LIMIT    K BYTES  M BYTES
>> TINY                80B  FA              1            1          4        1
>> BIG               1024B  FA           1024         1023        256        1
>>
>> or:

[snip]

>>
>> ACCOUNT=  SYS         GROUP=  OTHER
>> FILENAME  CODE   ------------LOGICAL RECORD------------ -------SPACE-------
>>                    SIZE  TYP           EOF        LIMIT                # MB
>> TINY                80B  FA              1            1            0.004 MB
>> BIG               1024B  FA           1024         1023            1     MB
>>
>>
>> Tip: the answer is: the last one.

Glenn Cole wrote:
>I agree.
>
>Though I find it interesting, if amusing, that rounding is still involved.
>After all, 1 MB != 1000 * 1 KB.

Which is why I think It should look more like this:

ACCOUNT=  SYS         GROUP=  OTHER
FILENAME  CODE   ------------LOGICAL RECORD------------ -----SPACE---
                   SIZE  TYP           EOF        LIMIT          # KB
TINY                80B  FA              1            1             4
BIG               1024B  FA           1024         1023          1024

I can draw a line down the page (literally, figuratively, or via software)
making an implied decimal point 3 digits to the right pretty easily.  And
the extra columns saved can be useful for showing longer file names in the
Posixish format version:

ACCOUNT=  SYS         GROUP=  OTHER
CODE   ------------LOGICAL RECORD------------ -----SPACE---  FILENAME
         SIZE  TYP           EOF        LIMIT          # KB
          80B  FA              1            1             4  TINY
        1024B  FA           1024         1023          1024 *BIG
          80B  FA              1            1             4  l234567890123456

P.S.  I personally see no reason for the suggested mode 10.  And if there's
to be no mode 10 (for now) and mode 22 isn't liked for whatever reason,
perhaps the new "Ldisc" mode should be 10 (which I presume is the next
available mode in the sequence).  Skipping to mode 20 (or even 22, which I
first proposed because it would be easy to retrain my fingers to type when
my brain says "2") may lead people to think other mode numbers in between
should be defined.  A very minor detail, to be sure, but perhaps enough
reason to simply make the new mode 10 (and 11, if two new modes are
introduced).
--
Jeff Woods
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   the software can't bridge.

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