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Johnson Stephen <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:20:19 -0500
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I remember Silton Data (Conrad Lugo was a friend there) did some
contracts with them and other companies using there software in the
clothing industries i.e.: St. John Knits -> Costa Mesa before they went
out of business.  Guess they came back if they exist today.
Maybe it was 1979 -> one of the beta test site for Transact was CBS
Musical Instruments in Fullerton, Ca and yes, it did have problems

Earth years............

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>From:  Michael Berkowitz[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent:  Friday, November 07, 1997 9:10AM
>To:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject:       Re: [HP3000-L] Transact Programs -Reply -Reply
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>Stephen Johnson writes:
>
>>>> Johnson Stephen <[log in to unmask]>
>11/07/97 08:45am >>>
>->OUT OF THE CLOSET ......
>I've been watching this conversation for the last few
>days...............
>All languages have there usefulness for a particular application
>Not all (C, COBOL,TRANSACT,PROTOS) can do just what you want
>everytime.
>
>I was the original test site back in ??75 for Transact....great
>I wrote the Saudi Arabian BOM in PROTOS
>I have written COBOL VIEW for 25 years and still do
>I use 4GL for large extract drive files linked to another language
>program
>I use C  at home on PC applications
>
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>What kind of years are you using, years on Mercury or Venus, cause
>they can't be earth years.  As it turns out, David Dummer the creator of
>Transact, or as it was known then as IMACS, created the language
>around 1979 and did a lot of testing and program writing at my company
>Silton Data.  The owners of Silton were partners with David, and another
>programmer and I at Silton wrote the first commercial applications in
>IMACS.  It was so slow and so cumbersome to use, we abandoned it
>and rewrote the applications in Cobol.  How primitive was it then; the
>equivalent of the Cobol perform verb did not exist.  You had to go to
>wherever you wanted and set a switch to know where to go back to.
>
>As far as 25 years of VPlus, V/3000 or plain old View as those of us
>that are long in tooth call it, that would mean it came out in 1972 with the
>original HP3000.  Funny when I started on the 3000 in 1978, we were
>using Data Entry Library (DEL) for block mode screen applications and
>didn't switch to View until the early 1980's.  Indeed the HP Data Entry and
>Forms Management System (VPLUS/V) Reference Manual has a first
>edition date of Nov 1978, last updated Nov 1987!!
>
>Mike Berkowitz
>Guess? Inc.
>

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