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Stuart Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
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Stuart Pierce <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 11 Sep 1997 13:01:15 EDT
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Will HiBack  back up an NT or Vines based server or is some other solution
available that anyone has heard about ? Thanks
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From "Denys P. Beauchemin" <[log in to unmask]>, on 9/9/97 8:01 PM:
/* begin confusion dissipation and plug alert
Er..., I think you mean Hiback.  Hiback will enable you to backup your HP
3000 to your NT server.  Since it would go beyond the boundaries of plugs
to give prices, I am e-mailing you the prices directly to you

End */

Kind regards,

Denys. . .

Denys Beauchemin
HICOMP America, Inc.
(800) 323-8863  (281) 288-7438         Fax: (281) 355-6879
[log in to unmask]                             www.hicomp.com



-----Original Message-----
From:   Michael A. Dobies [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Tuesday, September 09, 1997 12:02 PM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Re: Re[2]: Backing up the HP from a source off the network

I understand this is inefficient, but what is the cost for the software
BACKUP/3000?  To enable me to
Use the hp3000 as the client and an Ntserver as the server to do the backup
over the network.

On a side note & Really, I'm not joking, How easy is it to attach/detach
this backup machine to the HP at will?

Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From:   Michael A. Dobies [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 27, 1997 10:10 AM
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        Re[2]: Backing up the HP from a source off the network

>Date:         Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:40:34 PST
>Reply-To:      Paul Meszaros <[log in to unmask]>
>Sender:        HP-3000 Systems Discussion <[log in to unmask]>
>From:  Paul Meszaros <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject:       Re[2]: Backing up the HP from a source off the network
>Comments:      To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>Comments:      cc: [log in to unmask]
>To:    [log in to unmask]
>
>     a.) As Denys mentions, several solutions, including <<plug alert>>
>     ORBiT software's BACKUP/3000 <<end plug alert>> will support
>     DLT4000/4700 tape drives on the HP3000.
>
>     b.) As we have seen our users exceed throughput of 20GB/hour, why
>     throw away that performance by backing up over a network that will
>     only support max 3.6GB? The full capacity of your DLT4700 is approx
>     550GB...backing that up over a network would require over 150 hours
of
>     network-swamping, even if you could sustain it!
>
>     I suggest you would be better off to:
>
>     1.) directly connect the 4700 to the HP3000, or
>
>     2.) buy another DLT4700, 4500, or 4000, depending on your needs. Hey,
>     even a DDS III will probably exceed the throughput you will realize
>     over a network backup. ;->
>
>     Paul Meszaros
>     ORBiT Software USA
>     [log in to unmask]
>     800-89-ORBiT  voice
>     510-837-5752  fax
>
>
>______________________________ Reply Separator
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>Subject:       Re: Backing up the HP from a source off the network
>Author:  "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> at internet
>Date:    8/8/97 7:44 AM
>
>
>I am not sure if you mean, a) Use a Quantum DLT connected to an HP 3000 to
>do the backup, just like on your NT server, or b) Backup the HP 3000,
>sending the data stream over the network to the NT server, thus using the
>Quantum DLT on the NT.
>
>If a) then yes you can and there are several packages which support this.
>
>If b) then yes you can with <<Plug alert>>  Hiback running on Windows NT
>and Hiback running on MPE.
>
>Some points to consider:  The DLT 4000 has a native speed of about
>5GB/hour, not extremely fast, but quite good.  If you go over a network
>(10Mbps) you will achieve a speed of about .75-1mbps thus giving you a
>throughput of about 2.7 to 3.6GB/hour.  You will get more because Hiback
>compresses at the client (in this case the HP 3000) side. It may be
>difficult to keep the DLT streaming.  You may consider backing up to the
>disk on the NT server and then moving the backup from disk to DLT.  Hiback
>has all the functions you need to do that. <<End of plug alert>>
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Denys. . .
>
>Denys Beauchemin
>HICOMP America, Inc.
>(800) 323-8863  (281) 288-7438         Fax: (281) 355-6879
>[log in to unmask]                             www.hicomp.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:  Michael A. Dobies [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent:  Thursday, August 07, 1997 12:41 PM
>To:    [log in to unmask]
>Subject:       Backing up the HP from a source off the network
>
>I've got a Quantum 4700 Library connected to a NT Server.  Does anyone
>know if it is possible to use this hardware to backup the data on my
>HP3000?
>
>
>
>Michael A. Dobies
>[log in to unmask]
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>
>"Liberty is the last, best hope of Earth" Lincoln(1809-1865)
>

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