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Re: Oracle's "performance characteristics"
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"F. Alfredo Rego" <[log in to unmask]>
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F. Alfredo Rego
Date:
Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:27:42 -0600
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Larry Boyd <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 
>On  2 Aug 96 at 23:03, Ron Seybold wrote:
>
>> Let me understand this: Oracle, trying to deliver half of the stated
>> 100-user goal, needs two processors and gobs of memory?
>>
>> It's a real testament to marketing. What else could be selling such a
>> substandard solution?
>
>I thought about adding something to this when I read the original post
>last week.  I'm not an 'Oracle over IMAGE' evangelist.  I believe IMAGE
>is one of the best, if not the best, database system every designed for
>OLTP.
>
>However, I have seen *very* poor database designs even in IMAGE.  As
>Wirt has pointed out, and I agree (and paraphrase), "Anybody can
>design a poor database using any database system including IMAGE." I've
>seen a simple POS system that requires more than 800 TurboImage calls
>for a single 5 line item order.  And this application continues to run
>today!  It requires a 969/200 to support a little over 2,000
>orders per day.  It actually comes to about 5 orders per minute, with
>25 total line items per minute!
>
>Now, I believe a well designed IMAGE database will generally out run a
>well designed *anything* database, but one example that is not clearly
>laid out does not automatically make a database system bad.
 
 
 
All of this is certainly magnificent, Larry.  Nevertheless: I'm still
waiting for information regarding the cost of an Oracle installation that
supports 100 users :-)
 
So far, I have heard of 50 users, even 60 users for Oracle (on pretty
impressive -- and expensive -- hardware).  Not a peep regarding the cost of
Oracle itself, of course.  Meanwhile, HP3000 customers continue to provide
examples of HUNDREDS of concurrent users on a boring operating system such
as MPE with a boring database system such as IMAGE ("boring", according to
authorities such as stock analysts).
 
Will I ever get a straight answer regarding Oracle?
 
 
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