Duane Percox <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 
>Mike Yawn writes:
>
>>It looks like I'll be hosting the Java BoF at HPWorld this
>>year.  I'd appreciate any suggestions from the group as to
>>how to make the agenda interesting.
>>
>>A report on the port of Java to MPE will definitely be
>>included, and perhaps even a demo if luck is with us.
>>
>>My personal interest is on the side of serious application
>>development using Java.  A platform-independent language such
>>as Java could do wonders for the availability of new
>>application programs for the HP 3000.  Are other people's
>>interests similar, or more inclined towards Java as a
>>WWW plug-in, or what?
>
>I am interested in both, Java scripts/apps running on the client side
>AND Java running on the HP 3000. We can get plenty of help currently
>on Java scripts/apps on the client side, so I would prefer to see how
>I could leverage Java as a language on my HP 3000. Here are some issues
>that come to mind at this time:
>
>-- Status of the Java port to MPE (availability, costs, support issues)
>-- Java IDE for MPE?
>-- Where will Java apps run, in MPE, Posix or both?
>-- Class development to cover the basic MPE objects:
>   -- Image/SQL
>   -- Allbase/SQL
>   -- KSAM
>   -- MPE flat files of various types
>   -- Intrinsics
>-- Use of Java classes for socket i/o, both as client and server
>-- How to connect Java server apps up to a www server
 
 
Mark Klein <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Mike conjectures:
>
>>A platform-independent language such as Java could do wonders
>>for the availability of new application programs for the HP
>>3000.
>
>I personally think this is the greatest gift that Java will
>bring to the computing community. I wholeheartedly agree with
>Mike's assessment. And, I would like to make a distinction
>between "platform-independent language" and "run-time
>environment" for this discussion. In this case, I'm speaking to
>the possibility of generating native PA-RISC from a
>platform-independent language called Java and not generating the
>Java bytecode required for the run-time environment.
>
>I've considered the possibility of creating a Java Language
>front-end using the GNU compiler backend to provide a compiler
>that uses the Java Language, yet generates native PA-RISC (not
>Java bytecode). I haven't yet considered the possibilities and
>potential problems in such a plan, but I would be interested in
>general feedback at this time.
 
 
I would add:
 
Don't worry too much about the details right now.  The fact that so much
energy and enthusiasm are being generated by the Java/MPE issue is enough
to make me happy.
 
I'm convinced we will NOT run out of worthy topics.  Mike's, Duane's, and
Mark's ideas are just the tip(s) of the iceberg.
 
See you in Anaheim at Mike's Java BoF at HPWorld '96.  Thanks for
organizing it, Mike.  I'm here to help in any way possible.  I'm sure many
more people feel the same way I do.
 
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