In a message dated 96-05-11 18:10:47 EDT, [log in to unmask] (Stan Sieler)
makes several good points:
 
>
>
>Denys writes:
>
>> LACK OF HP 3000 MATERIAL.  I think not.  There is as much HP 3000 content
>as
>> the prior years, we have, however, expanded in other areas.  There are
>
>I think the point that several people made, and which has not been
>addressed yet, is that some of the material mailed by Interex about
>HP WORLD '96 contains little or no information about the HP 3000.  This
isn't
>opinion, but easily demonstratable fact.  If Denys doubts this, I'd be
>happy to fax him a copy of the mailer I received.
 
I do not doubt you at all.  Let us see what we can do about this.  I will
make a phone call tomorrow.
 
>
>I, for one, haven't questioned the about of HP 3000-specific content
>that will be at HP WORLD '96.  I expect to be happy with the content,
>assuming I am able to attend.  At present, my tutorial co-presenter and
>I were caught by surprise when we were told that only one of us will be
>admitted under the "tutorial presenters get free admission" policy;
>for whatever reason, we both thought that it would apply to both of us :(
>
>As usual, I encourage all HP 3000 users to attend!
>
>> AM to 6:PM.  If this is too long for you, you are going to the wrong
event,
>> this is a technical conference, not a pleasure cruise.
>
>Hmmm...that implies a quiet social then? :)
>(apparently yes, from later comments by Denys)
>
>> mainly because HP 9000 shops do not use databases.  Look at page 39-43 of
>the
>> call for paper and then come and tell me there is no HP 3000 content.
 Also
>> look at pages 31-33, 36-38, 46-47 and 53.  The call for registration only
>
>I don't have the call for papers in front of me, nor have I referred to it
>on the 'net before, but I hope that whoever commented about it will reply.
>
>> If you can t find HP 3000 material, you are working very hard to avoid it.
>
>That explains it ... the sentence applies to Interex!  :)  or is it:  :(
>
>In the sole piece of literature I commented on, my statements still
>stand...there is no reference to the HP 3000 or MPE.
>
 
It needs to be corrected.  You do not have to wait for me or anyone else,
call Interex!
 
 
>> and all.  When we finally did, it was a bit late.  This also addresses the
>> money issue for that social, HP generously sponsors the event.
>
>Thank you for the explanation, and thanks to HP for funding the social!
>
>> We only have one Interex (users) funded event,  on Wednesday Night.  After
>> all, this is a technical conference, not a social club.  If you want more
>> parties and social events, you will have to go elsewhere.
>
>May I suggest: SIGDisneyland?
 
I heartily endorse that one.  Now, if we can just get 10 signatures from
current Interex members, we can start it up.  I wonder what the mission
statement will be.
 
<begin leaving reality>
SIGMM  (Special Interest Group for Mickey Mouse).
 
SIGMM is dedicated to chasing down Mickey Mouse problems with
disproportionate negative consequences to the HP 3000 user community.  We
plan to ride every roller-coaster of political in-fighting and assorted other
deeds with the final objective of promoting the HP 3000.  We shall leave no
stone unturned, no manual unopened, no HP3000-L post unanswered, no technical
article uncritized, no webpage unsurfed in this holiest of all quests:  Get a
64-bit MPE-XVIII.
<returning to reality> :-)
 
>
>> The Management Symposium has Joel Birnbaum as opening keynote address.
 Dr.
>> Jim Wetherbe is the featured speaker for the management symposium and yes,
>he
>> brings in the folks for that special event.
>
>Although no dollar figures were mentioned, as a member of Interex I hope
that
>the *additional* people he brings in contribute more than he costs.
 
The *additional* people he brings in go to the management symposium which
occurs the day before the main conference begins.  Last year we had over 400
people attend this extra cost function.  This is definitely *not* a financial
drag on the main conference.
 
>
>> So, except for Jim Wetherbe (who makes the Management Symposium
>conference),
>> Scott Adams and Cherryl Currid (both of whom are not expensive), all the
>> keynotes and plenaries are HP folks who graciously donate their time.  In
>> other words, they cost Interex and you nothing.
>
>That's great to hear about the HP people, ... I can't recall seeing that
>in print before, thanks Denys!
 
HP provides speakers to many RUGs, NUGs and Interex functions.  They have
been doing this forever and always graciously.  This is probably one of the
little know snippets of data about HP.
 
HP considers HP World and the users important enough, they are providing an
impressive amount of speakers this year.  This is for all the plenaries, some
training seminars, half the keynotes, and a host of special sessions (Look at
pages 26-28).
 
HP also makes up a fair portion of the main program.  If you look at page 29,
you will also notice that HP participates in the planning of the conference.
 And this page only lists some of the HP folks involved in the planning. They
are a classy company.
 
>
>Reading your words carefully, however, leads the reader to assume that Jim
>Wetherbe is expensive, so my above-mentioned "hope" still stands.
 
You do not have to read that carefully, he is more expensive, but well worth
it.  They attendees rave about him and he pulls in a good crowd.  Your "hope"
is not dashed. :-)
 
>
>As for Scott Adams, I certainly enjoy his work, and would encourage the
>conference staff to consider having some Dilbert-related material available
>for purchase (books, T-shirts).  Perhaps an autograph session can be
>arranged?
 
All good ideas, call Interex and tell them, and I will pass this along also.
 
>
>And I still wonder how much Jim, Scott, and Cherryl cost.  If you won't
>tell us, it must not be good news.
>
 
Geez, I would, if I could remember the figures.  It is less than a game of
golf with Clinton.   I will get back to you on that, provided I do not break
a contract provision somewhere.
 
 
>> Finally, the name of the event.  Those of you who have received the Call
>For
>> Registration have surely noted the name of the event, following the
caption
>> 'Interex presents'.  In answer to a post about people chucking the CFR
>
>True, although the postcard-mailer puts it somewhat differently than
>we are used to seeing it, with:
>
>   the association of Hewlett-Packard Computing Professionals (Interex)
>instead of:
>   Interex (the Association of Hewlett-Packard Computing Professionals)
>
>Hmm...for that matter, the http://www.interex.org web site says:
>
>   You've arrived at the web site for the International Association of
>   Hewlett-Packard Computing Professionals known as Interex.
>
>When did we become the group "known as Interex" instead of "Interex,
the..."?
>
 
You got me there.  I was not aware of this.  Please feel free to call Interex
at (800) INTEREX and complain.
 
 
>
>Closing note...HP WORLD '96 has a "UNIX Bootcamp" ... maybe we need an
>"MPE Bootcamp" with mandatory attendance by high-level HP management
>sales people?  :)
>
 
An excellent idea, although it is a bit late for '96 as the program was
closed in January.  Perhaps you wish to take this on for next year in
Chicago.
 
Kind regards,
 
Denys. . .