I haven’t used it myself, but I have set up AppleTalk on SE-era Macs
before. If I remember correctly, the SE lacks an expansion slot for
getting it on an Ethernet network. A device exists called a
Localtalk-to-Ethernet bridge which is a Mac serial port on one side and
Ethernet on the other. This translates the Localtalk AppleTalk packets to
EtherTalk packets, enabling Localtalk-only Macs to communicate with
Ethernet-connected AppleTalk servers. The AsanteTalk is an example of such
a device, but there are several; they are getting more rare these days.
If you see references to MacIP, this is a software solution which can allow
TCP/IP packets to be sent and received via Localtalk, but I think it
requires having a Mac with Localtalk and Ethernet to be dedicated to this
purpose. Essentially such a Mac becomes a network router and nothing more.
I have a 927LX with MPE/iX 6.0, a few vintage Macs (and an Apple IIgs,
which could do AppleTalk, amazingly), and an AsanteTalk bridge. I should
give this a shot. Would be pleasantly eclectic to use my 3000 as a file
server for my vintage Apple gear. :-)
I don't have the API documentation but it would be interesting to see it if
anyone runs across it.
-Rob
On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 11:31 Keven Miller (3kG) <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Recently I was helping someone with a Mac-SE.
> The topic of APPLETALK came up.
> I note that there is a group APPLETLK.SYS with several programs.
>
> Anyone know of or has more info on these and any setup/use of them?
> In the below article it states request more info on the APIs.
> Did any one do that?
>
> Keven Miller
>
>
> This is found in
> COMMUNICATOR 3000 MPE/iX General Release 5.0 (Core Software Release
> C.50.00)
>
> Introducing AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000
>
> by Cliff Chew
> Information Networks Division
>
> With the MPE/iX 5.0 Release, HP is introducing a new product for Apple
> Macintosh connectivity called AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000.
> AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000 allows the HP 3000 Series 900 to act
> as an AppleShare-compatible File Server for a network of Macintosh
> clients. To a Macintosh client, the HP 3000 Series 900 looks identical
> to a dedicated Macintosh running as an AppleShare version 2.1 File
> Server.
>
> AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000 provides the AppleTalk protocol and
> AppleShare File Server services. The file services allows a Macintosh
> client to store files on the HP 3000 and share those files with other
> Macintosh clients.
>
> In addition to AppleShare File Server services, AppleTalk Services for
> the HP 3000 provides other features including:
>
> * Access to MPE files. Macintosh clients can directly access files
> residing in the POSIX file system of MPE. Files residing in the
> non-POSIX file system of MPE can also be accessed if the files are
> in MPE file format with fixed or variable lengths. AppleTalk
> Services for the HP 3000 file security is built on top of MPE file
> security. File access is governed by the user's MPE file access
> rights. MPE ASCII files appear as Macintosh text files.
>
> * Access to multiple volumes. AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000
> allows multiple volumes to be defined on the HP 3000. A Macintosh
> client can access one or more volumes simultaneously. Each volume
> (an MPE account, group, or directory in the POSIX file system)
> looks like a disk on the Macintosh. Each directory under that
> volume looks like a folder within that disk and individual files
> on the HP 3000 look like Macintosh files.
>
> * APIs. Information available on request.
>
> AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000 is supported over Ethernet LANs only
> (TokenTalk and LocalTalk are not currently supported). The Macintosh
> will need access to Ethernet either by installing EtherTalk Phase II or
> through a router.
>
> To connect to AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000 server, AppleShare
> client software (version 6.0.8 or later), included with system software,
> is required on the Macintosh. Both are included with every Macintosh so
> no additional software is required. On the HP 3000, MPE/iX 5.0 and an
> 802.3 LANIC card are required.
>
> AppleTalk Services for the HP 3000 does not support print services (that
> is, printing to a printer attached to the HP 3000). Since most Apple
> printers connect to the network, they can be shared by the Macintosh
> clients without the HP 3000.
>
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