I only used the word "RAID" for mirroring, since mirroring is a.k.a.
RAID level 1.
For $99, do they take paypal?
No hurry, I'd have to wait until it arrives anyway.
On 2/4/23 15:42, Robert Liesenfeld wrote:
> As Craig says, the SCSI2SD is bootable.
>
> When I set mine up, I was moving from an existing spinning-disk install so
> I did a sysgen [log in to unmask]@.@ (or to that effect, I’d have to go look at
> my notes to remember exactly, but it’s basically just a full system
> backup). I left drive models alone and just set the SCSI2SD vendor to
> “HP”. I can find some MAPPER output to show you what I have.
>
> From there, I booted off of the sysgen tape and restored to the SCSI2SD
> volume. I also set up a roughly 12GB volume as additional storage, but I
> don’t remember many details from that. I might be able to dig some up if
> it’s important. In essence you can create volumes of the size you desire
> and use them just like regular SCSI disks on the 3000.
>
> I’ve never tried multiple SCSI2SDs to accomplish actual multi-device RAID;
> in principle I suppose there’s no reason it wouldn’t work, if you set
> termination and so forth appropriately so both devices can be seen on the
> bus (I think by default termination is enabled on the SCSI2SD). For my
> purposes, my MPE/iX install changes slowly enough that I’m comfortable with
> a once-every-few-weeks shutdown and backup of the SD card.
>
> I’ll send the MAPPER output shortly, assuming I can find it.
>
> -Rob
>
> On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 12:33 Craig Lalley <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I can't answer everything.
>> Yes it is bootable, and multiple volume can be defined. I.e 2 * 9GB hard
>> drives.
>> I suppose you could have two of them if you had two paths.
>> But you can't mirror the boot drive.
>>
>> -Craig
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 12:28:41 PM PST, Tracy Johnson <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> You may be able to answer this right off the bat:
>>
>> Is the SD "bootable" ?
>>
>> Can it be made LDEV 1, or only a user volume_set ?
>>
>> Next questions:
>>
>> You can't have RAID redundancy with one of these things, but you had TWO
>> of 'em, what then?
>>
>> Oh and another thing, What drive model name does one use in SYSGEN ?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/4/23 14:40, Craig Lalley wrote:
>>> Tracy,
>>>
>>> It's $99. Power, but more importantly is the sound. Those Jamaica
>>> boxes aren't exactly quite. The SD though....
>>>
>>> Of course the Jamaica box also helps keep the garage heated.
>>>
>>> -Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 10:54:35 AM PST, Tracy Johnson
>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I'll have to check pricing. This is my garage machine in retirement,
>>> after all.
>>>
>>> Something about the wife telling me to not spend "our" money on
>> frivolity.
>>> Maybe I can use the "energy savings" ploy. She pays no mind to the cost
>>> of running two fully loaded Jamaica boxes.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/4/23 11:24, Robert Liesenfeld wrote:
>>>> Tracy, the Rabbit Hole Computing store is indeed the correct source for
>>>> SCSI2SD devices. The V5.2 is the version you'd want, they appear to
>>> have
>>>> 85 in stock. I have one of these running in my 927LX and it works
>>> great.
>>>> The ZuluSCSI is new, I don't know if it works or not. The
>> RaSCSI/PiSCSI
>>>> does *not* work, the BlueSCSI might but I haven't tried that one
>> either.
>>>> You could set up multiple emulated disks on the SCSI2SD but as
>>> they'd all
>>>> be written to the same SD card, you wouldn't gain any RAID-like
>>> redundancy
>>>> from this; however, you could easily remove the SD card (after powering
>>>> down of course) and back up its contents to perform full system backups
>>>> whenever desired.
>>>>
>>>> If you decide to pick up a SCSI2SD I can show you what settings I've
>>> used
>>>> successfully.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 7:50 AM Craig Lalley <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My memory is fading.
>>>>> Can you look for IO errors in the system log?
>>>>> LOGTOOL?
>>>>> Also, wasn’t there a way in cstm to get IO errors?
>>>>> -Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023, 7:33 am, Terry Simpkins <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to those so quick to react (why aren't you watching Saturday
>>>>> morning cartoons?? 😉)
>>>>>
>>>>> FSCHECK reported only 2 little directory warnings.
>>>>> One data group is on the user volume but not the system volume, and
>>>>> another data group is "not active on user volume".
>>>>> Both of these are MANMAN database groups that are never used. But
>> I'll
>>>>> get those 'problems' corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> With no other errors/problems reported, I guess I'll just wait and
>>> see if
>>>>> another incident occurs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Terry W Simpkins
>>>>> Yorktown, VA 23693
>>>>> IBA # 8778 SS1000, SS2000, BBG, 50CC
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion<[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Craig Lalley
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2023 9:58 AM
>>>>> To:[log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] System abort
>>>>>
>>>>> FSCHECK.MPEXL.TELESUP
>>>>> ca all
>>>>> -Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, February 4, 2023, 6:52 am, Terry Simpkins <
>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My little 928 had a system failure this morning. My initial
>>> suspicion is
>>>>> that LDEV #2 has a problem.
>>>>> I issued an ‘abortjob’ command from a ‘non-console’ session, and
>>> got these
>>>>> messages before the command completed successfully:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad SYSTEM LOGICAL Sector number 0x226A80b on ldev 2
>>> (io_status=FFD40071)
>>>>> Filename of badfile:/VESOFT/CMD22/SHOWSCH8 Bad SYSTEM LOGICAL Sector
>>>>> number 0x226A80b on ldev 2 (io_status=FFD40071) Filename of bad
>>>>> file:/VESOFT/CMD22/SHOWSCH8 Bad SYSTEM LOGICAL Sector number
>>> 0x226A80ÿ on
>>>>> ldev 2 (io_status=FFD40071) Filename of badfile:/VESOFT/CMD22/SHOWSCH8
>>>>> Bad SYSTEM LOGICAL Sector number 0x226A80ÿ on ldev 2
>>> (io_status=FFD40071)
>>>>> Filename of badfile:/VESOFT/CMD22/SHOWSCH8 Bad SYSTEM LOGICAL Sector
>>>>> number 0x226A80ÿ on ldev 2 (io_status=FFD40071) Filename of bad
>>>>> file:/VESOFT/CMD22/SHOWSCH8
>>>>>
>>>>> (There were more of these messages but I didn’t copy everything)
>>>>>
>>>>> I walked over to the other room where the console is located and
>>> found the
>>>>> following displayed:
>>>>>
>>>>> System Abort 1740 from subsystem 107
>>>>> Secondary Status: INFO = -44 Subsys = 113 System Halt 7, $06CC
>>>>>
>>>>> Then autorestart kicked in and the system performed a ‘Start
>>> NoRecovery’,
>>>>> with no reported errors.
>>>>> I ran “LISTF” on the file listed above (SHOWSCH8.CMD22.VESOFT)
>>> without a
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> And then “printed” the file to the screen without generating another
>>>>> system halt. If the drive was failing, I thought that would create
>>> another
>>>>> system failure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas/suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Terry W Simpkins
>>>>> Yorktown, VA 23693
>>>>> IBA # 8778 SS1000, SS2000, BBG, 50CC
>>>>>
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