If it was me, and so not to upset your ISP, I would put a small firewall on the lan side. Forward everything to that as your DMZ, Find something with port forwarding etc., Nat is a given these days, its PAT you need. Thats if you dont want to fight your ISP or get them to agree to a foreign device plugging into their network. 



hth

Gary



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> On 11 May 2022, at 00:34, Tracy Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> 

> Nah, it won't do a NAT either.

> 

> Remember this is a "Residential" Cox modem which is an ISP brand, I don't know if you have that in the U.K., it would be like having a British Telecom branded modem.  It will only do Port Forwarding or a DMZ.  And it was dumbed down.

> 

> They have even taken away that ability from the modem itself. You are redirected to a Cox wifi site (even though I have wifi turned off) with limited parameters then turns around and reconfigures your modem after you commit.

> 

> At one point I reset to default condition on the modem.  When I came back up Port Forwarding was there.  I was able to add ONE port forward on the admin page modem itself.  After I committed, the ability went away.  So they are doing something to the admin page of the modem after a reset to take that ability away and redirect you to their web site.

> 

> By the way, when I manually added the HP3000 to the list of connected devices (it auto-detected everything else) I had to use the MAC address.  Then it asked what kind of device it was? e.g.:

> 

> Desktop

> Phone

> Laptop

> Light

> Garage Door

> Camera

> Game Console

> Storage

> Misc.

> Alarm

> .. and a bunch of other things ..

> 

> 

> I had to pick "Misc".

> 

> Apparently, because I used the beginning 08:00:09 ... for the MAC Address at least it came back with "HP Device".

> 

> 

>> On 5/10/22 18:38, Gary Stephens wrote:

>> I do love a networking challenge 😀

>> 

>> Will your router do any PAT ? Redirect from one external port to another?

>> 

>> Set the 3000 to listen on a different port?

>> 

>> Ok that’s enough from me off to bed this side of the pond

>> 

>> Nite all

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>>>> On 10 May 2022, at 23:08, Tracy Johnson<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:

>>> 

>>> My old empire HP3000 is still running, but it hasn't had a web page in 7 months.

>>> 

>>> You can still telnet or VT-MGR to it at empire.game-host.org

>>> 

>>> The Catch-22 is yes it still serves up a web page, but any port forwarding will work for telnet or VT, but it won't work for http.

>>> 

>>> Why?

>>> 

>>> Because the IP address for my web page conflicts with the IP for the admin page for my residential Cox modem.

>>> 

>>> Any http access from the outside to the IP is obviously blocked so it just serves a time-out.

>>> 

>>> Inside my network it works fine.

>>> 

>>> Anyone thought of a workaround?  A separate router?

>>> 

>>> Of course the expensive solution is to get a business account.

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