Thank you to everyone for your sage advice! I was able to successfully
back up and restore my system from the spinning SCSI drives to a SCSI2SD.
Unfortunately my SCSI2SD v6 didn't seem to be seen by the system, so I'm on
a 5.2; this means less performance but as this is a hobby system, I'm not
too concerned.
I have a few more questions that I hope someone can help me with, or at
least point me in the right direction.
What terminal app do you all recommend for use under Windows? I found
QCTerm on hpmuseum.net and it seems to be the best freely available option,
but it has a few minor bugs. And, on one system, I somehow got it into a
state where it won't start anymore. I've also tried freevt3k/xhpterm but
this seems very limited and hasn't had any attention in years, as far as I
can tell. I applied for an evaluation version of Reflection, which is what
I recall using in the 90s, but the response has been resounding silence
from the company (now Micro Focus). I imagine they probably don't have
anyone working the sales pipeline for HP 3000 terminal software any longer.
I have my 927LX connected via Ethernet, and was able to figure out NMMGR,
NETCONTROL, NSCONTROL, and how to stream the INETD job. I added these
commands to my SYSSTART.PUB.SYS, but NETCONTROL and NSCONTROL always seem
to fail. If I log in as MANAGER.SYS and run the commands manually,
everything works fine. What am I doing wrong here?
Why can't I log in after START RECOVERY ? If I allow the system to boot
automatically, ISL performs an automatic START RECOVERY. Once the system
boots, HELLO MANAGER.SYS fails; I forget the exact message but something
about the system being unavailable or busy. I'm guessing there's some
"recovery is done" flag I have to set as OPERATOR.SYS after booting, but I
don't have the first clue where to find this. Any thoughts?
Alternatively, is there a way to convince ISL to automatically boot with
START NORECOVERY? Again since this is a hobby machine for me, I'm not
concerned with restarting running jobs.
Thanks again for any advice.
-Rob
On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 7:42 AM Tracy Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Me too. The ability for "online" backups such as Turbostore and other
> 3rd party backups also lets you store those other "pesky" un-storable
> files. (Which may add a little redundancy to that CLST.)
>
> On 12/20/21 10:30 AM, Keven Miller (3kG) wrote:
> > I recall that SWITCHLOG suggestion - but apparently have not
> > implemeted it.
> >
> > I've choosen to keep my CSLT and BACKUPS separate.
> > Speeds up the CSLT creation. Separate tapes for each part.
> >
> > Here is part of my FULLBACK job
> >
> > !SETVAR BACKLIST "FB" +RHT("0!HPYEAR",2) +RHT("0!HPMONTH",2) &
> > ! +RHT("0!HPDATE",2)
> > !
> > !FILE OFFLINE=!BACKLIST.LOG.LAB;DEV=DISC;DISC=400000;NOCCTL
> > !FILE FULLBACK;DEV=AUTO7
> > !
> > !IF NOT FINFO ( "BULDJOB1", "EXISTS" ) THEN
> > ! BULDACCT @
> > !ENDIF
> > !
> > !ECHO @[log in to unmask] >>BACK
> > !ECHO @[log in to unmask] >>BACK
> > !ECHO @[log in to unmask]@[log in to unmask]@[log in to unmask]@.LAB-!HPSPOOLID.OUT.HPSPOOL >>BACK
> > !PRINT BACK
> > !
> > !STORE ^BACK;*FULLBACK;SHOW=OFFLINE;DIRECTORY;PROGRESS=5;&
> > ! ONERR=QUIT;STATISTICS
> > !
> > !SHOWVAR STORE@
> > !
> >
> > It creates the OFFLINE store listing in FByymmdd.LOG.LAB.
> > Does a BULDACCT for recreating the directory structure
> > Stores the SYS account first. Allows me access to system tools
> > while the long process of restore proceeds.
> > If you have many accounts alphabetically before SYS, you would not
> > have
> > access to SYS until all that restored.
> > Store my LAB account, with all my other tools - done first for same
> > reason as SYS.
> > Finally, stores the whole system, minus all that I stored before.
> > Also not the minus of WGCONFIG, and this job's SPOOLFILE.
> >
> > When ran with no other jobs, I get the same list as you.
> >
> > 8 /SYS/PUB/DSTLGTAB NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 9 /SYS/PUB/DSTLID NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 10 /SYS/PUB/DSTRINS NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 11 /SYS/PUB/DSTWELC1 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 12 /SYS/PUB/DSTWELC2 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 13 /SYS/PUB/FPROTECT NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 14 /SYS/PUB/HFFFFFFA NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 15 /SYS/PUB/HFFFFFFB NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 16 /SYS/PUB/HPGID NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 17 /SYS/PUB/HPGIDNX NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 18 /SYS/PUB/HPUID NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 19 /SYS/PUB/HPUIDNX NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 20 /SYS/PUB/JMATFILE NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 21 /SYS/PUB/JOBQFILE NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 22 /SYS/PUB/LOADLIST NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 23 /SYS/PUB/LOG0123 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 24 /SYS/PUB/MEMLOG NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 25 /SYS/PUB/NMLG0129 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> > 26 /SYS/PUB/SL NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Liesenfeld" <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> >> :print storeset.pub.sys
> >> @[log in to unmask]@;PROGRESS;SHOW=DATES;DIRECTORY;ONVS=MPEXL_SYSTEM_VOLUME_SET,DEV
> >>
> >> sysgen> ta dest=offline store=^storeset.pub.sys
> >>
> >> /HPSPOOL/OUT/O100 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /HPSPOOL/OUT/O99 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/MPEXL/WGCONFIG NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/DSTLGTAB NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/DSTLID NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/DSTRINS NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/DSTWELC1 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/DSTWELC2 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/FPROTECT NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/HPGID NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/HPGIDNX NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/HPUID NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/HPUIDNX NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/JMATFILE NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/JOBQFILE NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/LOADLIST NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/LOG0015 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/LOG4ONLN NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/MEMLOG NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/NMLG0014 NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >> /SYS/PUB/SL NOT STORED: FILE IS OPEN FOR WRITING
> >>
> >
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