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Hi Gary :)

    Don't know about network server type boxes... but I have over the decades revived several hundred.... boxes using SpinRite by Gibson Research (https://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm).   Great tools from that guy!



     I would love to say it has worked everytime... but it hasn't... but hey... it is a great tool.. some of Gibson's other stuff is fun and/or very useful :)



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-----Original Message-----

From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gary Stephens

Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:51 AM

To: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] SSD installation



Sys prep - yes you can, :-)



Apologies for hijacking this thread but brings to mind a quandary I have had in the back of my head for years now but if we put VM and snapshots to one side for a moment, has anyone out there successfully recovered a failed machine from a silver bullet solution from the vendors out there? Not as a test but when its all gone horribly wrong…..

Over the years I have listened intently to the sales chap telling me how easy it is to recover a server from a failure by applying this that and the other magic backup they have tried to sell us, yet when things go wrong and we all have been there, we seem to recover by building from the latest version of the o/s, ignoring all of those iso’s we have carefully stored but cannot lay your hands on when you need them and instead download the latest from the manufacturers main site. The end result is a fresh version of the o/s, usually with more up to date patches than we had prior to failure and finally we recover the databases and release back to production.



Boy did I need to get that off my chest ;-)



The only time I think I used the recovery media in anger was either on the 3000 where the recovery worked, or vm but thats awhile different story.



Any thoughts?











> On 17 Aug 2016, at 12:57, Craig Lalley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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> I think you are looking for SYSPREP

> What is Sysprep?

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>      From: Wyell Grunwald <[log in to unmask]>

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:47 AM

> Subject: Re: SSD installation

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> Just FYI - In the many times I have done this very thing, copying

> drives has never been successfully done.  There are always things

> missing.  Some copy protected software depends on the software being

> at a certain sector on the disk in order to work.  Maybe I am just the

> most unlucky guy, but that is my experience.  Also, it sure would be

> nice to not have to reload everything when you switch out motherboard/processor/memory and use the same drive.

> Unfortunately, I have never been successful at this either.  I just

> went through the painful process of upgrading my 6 machines a couple months ago.

> I do backups daily.  Still had to reload all my drives, and I am still

> finding settings that I need to re-set up.  Yes, I put 250Gb SSD

> drives as primary boot, and 6Tb drives as secondary storage.  Just FYI

> - if you buy a "bare" 6Tb drive like I did, it took nine days to NTFS

> format, and 6 days to copy from my NAS across Gb network to the

> formatted drive !!  Simply incredible how cheap storage is now - the 6Tb drives cost me under $200.

> Just a few years ago a NAS 3Tb drive cost me over $200.

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> By the way, I am an advocate of reloading, since Windows gets "dirty"

> over time, and it cleans it up nicely.  Of course, updates have to be

> put back on, and it takes a load of time.

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> Wyell

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On

> Behalf Of Gsainc

> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:42 PM

> To: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: SSD installation

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> Assuming your laptop already has the appropriate SATA interface (as

> per

> Denys) you should be okay.

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> The software that accompanies the SSD would presumably allow you to

> perform an image copy of your existing C drive.

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> Once you've done the image backup, it should simply be a physical disc

> replacement (existing C-drive OUT, new SSD drive IN).

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> Then, power up laptop and you should enjoy significant performance

> improvement - especially on boot up.

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> In the worst case, you've lost some time and a few bucks - although

> you could always use the SSD drive for external storage.

>

> Gilles Schipper

> Sent via mobile

> 416-702-7900

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>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 2:47 PM, John Lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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>> HI all-

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>> Has anyone recently installed a solid state drive in an older laptop?

> Kingston advertises one for $65 that supposedly comes with software

> that will transfer files to it, also.  What a great way to revive an

> older laptop.  Or are there issues?  Installation issues?  Driver issues?

> Interface issues?

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>> Thanks,

>>

>> John Lee

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