Darn spell check...
"volumes etc see built" should be
"volumesets are built"
"bulk job jobs" should be
"buldjob jobs"
Gilles Schipper
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> On Apr 2, 2015, at 4:33 PM, Gsainc <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Best option is:
>
> :restore "t;;directory
>
> That would be if you did store the directory(s) on your backup.
>
> If there are user volumes involved, another directory restore should be invoked after the volumes etc see built.
>
> If you do not have stored directory(s) then you should build your volumes etc, if appropriate. then stream the bulk job jobs.
>
> Absent the bulk jobs, your final option is manual.
>
> Gilles Schipper
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>> On Apr 2, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Wes S <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> We were able to boot from spare VA and have rebuilt the original VA and
>> have configured everything and no longer getting the crash. Now I need to
>> restore the directory but I can't remember how. I don't want to rebuild all
>> my groups and accounts manually. Do I use buldjob1 to rebuild the
>> directory? Sorry been too long and lost my notes.
>> On Apr 2, 2015 11:45 AM, "Hawkins, Jim (EG TCE&Q HP Servers)" <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Wes,
>>>
>>> During an Install you are stomping on all the data on the disks, there
>>> will be no XM recovery of the volume information so the messages will be
>>> different.
>>>
>>> I would be concerned also that if you're messing with the VA, especially
>>> creating and deleting LUNs, you'll need to make sure your SCSI-FC router
>>> (assuming A5814A-003) is kept 'informed' of the changes.
>>>
>>> I'll remind folks that START NORECOVERY MESSAGE with a 'terminal' set-up
>>> to capture the output can help pinpoint failures in a more obvious manner.
>>> You can use "MESSAGE" during Update or Install too but IIRC there are
>>> some console prompts for information if you do that so be prepared. . .
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>>> Behalf Of Wes S
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 7:37 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
>>>
>>> Hardware guy is configuring the array so our system can read it. Will be
>>> hooking it up soon to see if we can get past the crash.
>>>
>>> I'm still puzzled by losing the message "start aggregate recovery of mpexl
>>> volume set and complete of mpexl volume set". Could it be we began to see
>>> degradation of VA communication as we rebooted a dozen times? We would try
>>> something and reboot, knowing that wouldn't fix it, but due diligence
>>> sometimes overrules common sense especially when reporting to mgmt why it
>>> takes so long to fix this.
>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 10:03 PM, "Ryan C. Melander" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Loaded with disk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ryan C.Melander, V.P
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>>>> 88 Wright Brothers Ave.
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>> From: Wes S <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Date: 04/01/2015 7:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
>>>>
>>>> You may be correct, which is why he's bringing a spare array to the
>>>> office.
>>>> We cannot get Commandview to work for some dumb reason. Hellava April
>>>> fool's day for me... :( On Apr 1, 2015 9:37 PM, "mr_lalley"
>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wes,
>>>>>
>>>>> IMHO, the problem is your VA array. Is there any way you can query
>>> the
>>>>> serial port (and paste the output here)? Better yet, do you have
>>>>> CommandView?
>>>>>
>>>>> Without more information from the VA, I think your flying blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Craig
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>> From: Wes S <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Date: 01/04/2015 7:25 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: system abort
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately the drive in question didn't show a fault and thus we
>>>>> have
>>>> no
>>>>> idea which drive to replace. And the bad sector message moved from
>>>>> ldev
>>>> 54
>>>>> to 56.
>>>>>
>>>>> Current status: so we tried to do an install using boot alt path and
>>>> still
>>>>> get the crash message, except now it doesn't show message "start
>>>> aggregate
>>>>> recovery of mpexl set" and goes directly to "userlog aggregate
>>> recovery"
>>>>> then aggregate recovery of private volume then crash message. Our
>>>> hardware
>>>>> guy and myself both of us with 20+ years on this platform have never
>>>>> seen this happen. What is causing this to crash? All devices show as
>>>>> being mounted, all paths are there, we are stumped. He will attempt
>>>>> to hook a different VA and bridge to see if that gets us past the
>>> crash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep the ideas coming please. Is a test server but ppl are
>>>>> waiting...but
>>>> I
>>>>> need sleep...
>>>>>
>>>>> Wes
>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 5:03 PM, "Jack Connor"
>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you got a bad sector message, Wes, doing the install is a waste
>>>>>> of
>>>>> time
>>>>>> if you didn't replace the failed drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Wes S
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:40 PM
>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I appreciate the help, been on this for 4 hours already and have
>>>>>> not received any viable solution. I just started the install
>>>>>> command from
>>>>> alt
>>>>>> boot path and rebuild it. Is test and just taking longer by waiting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the help folks. LL MPE!
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 4:07 PM, "Wes S" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, SCSI from processor to bridge, fiber from bridge to brocade
>>>>>>> switch, fiber from switch to VA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We brought system up in single disk mode and looking at sysgen.
>>>>>>> All ldevs are there.
>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 4:02 PM, "Jim Maher" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should have a SCSI bridge. It’s a small box that converts
>>>>>>>> SCSI
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> fiber.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Wes S [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>]
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:59 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* Jim Maher
>>>>>>>> *Cc:* [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [HP3000-L] system abort
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A6188A - 7100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jim Maher" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You said you are using a va array on a 969. What model? Also
>>>>>>>> are you using a SCSI/fc bridge?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Wes S
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:51 PM
>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> VA is in ready state. We have power cycled all the hardware,
>>>>>>>> had to bring it up in a particular order. Tried booting 5 or 6
>>>>>>>> times now
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> crashes when it gets to aggregate recovery of private volume set.
>>>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2015 3:48 PM, "Ryan C. Melander"
>>>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> VA's can be finicky, I would reboot VA. Before reloading
>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>> Is the VA in a ready state? Anything showing in the VA logs?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>>>>> From: Wes S <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 04/01/2015 1:44 PM (GMT-08:00)
>>>>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mapper shows all devices are there. We did that a while
>>>>>>>>> ago...:) On Apr 1, 2015 3:42 PM, "Mark Ranft" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The first thing I would do is BO PRI and instead of START
>>>>>>>>>> NORECOVERY. I would run ODE MAPPER. (Note: This is
>>>>>>>>>> MAPPER2 on
>>>>>>>> newer system).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hint: At ISL> prompt type 'RUN ODE MAPPER'
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Verify you can see all the disks you think you should see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark Ranft
>>>>>>>>>> Pro 3K
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