We were able to boot from spare VA and have rebuilt the original VA and
have configured everything and no longer getting the crash. Now I need to
restore the directory but I can't remember how. I don't want to rebuild all
my groups and accounts manually. Do I use buldjob1 to rebuild the
directory? Sorry been too long and lost my notes.
On Apr 2, 2015 11:45 AM, "Hawkins, Jim (EG TCE&Q HP Servers)" <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Wes,
>
> During an Install you are stomping on all the data on the disks, there
> will be no XM recovery of the volume information so the messages will be
> different.
>
> I would be concerned also that if you're messing with the VA, especially
> creating and deleting LUNs, you'll need to make sure your SCSI-FC router
> (assuming A5814A-003) is kept 'informed' of the changes.
>
> I'll remind folks that START NORECOVERY MESSAGE with a 'terminal' set-up
> to capture the output can help pinpoint failures in a more obvious manner.
> You can use "MESSAGE" during Update or Install too but IIRC there are
> some console prompts for information if you do that so be prepared. . .
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Wes S
> Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 7:37 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
>
> Hardware guy is configuring the array so our system can read it. Will be
> hooking it up soon to see if we can get past the crash.
>
> I'm still puzzled by losing the message "start aggregate recovery of mpexl
> volume set and complete of mpexl volume set". Could it be we began to see
> degradation of VA communication as we rebooted a dozen times? We would try
> something and reboot, knowing that wouldn't fix it, but due diligence
> sometimes overrules common sense especially when reporting to mgmt why it
> takes so long to fix this.
> On Apr 1, 2015 10:03 PM, "Ryan C. Melander" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Loaded with disk?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ryan C.Melander, V.P
> > Ideal Computer Services, Inc.
> > 88 Wright Brothers Ave.
> > Livermore, CA. 94551
> > Ph. 800-862-8787
> > Ph. 925-447-4747 x213
> > Fx. 925-447-4780
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Wes S <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 04/01/2015 7:58 PM (GMT-08:00)
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
> >
> > You may be correct, which is why he's bringing a spare array to the
> > office.
> > We cannot get Commandview to work for some dumb reason. Hellava April
> > fool's day for me... :( On Apr 1, 2015 9:37 PM, "mr_lalley"
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Wes,
> > >
> > > IMHO, the problem is your VA array. Is there any way you can query
> the
> > > serial port (and paste the output here)? Better yet, do you have
> > > CommandView?
> > >
> > > Without more information from the VA, I think your flying blind.
> > >
> > > -Craig
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > > From: Wes S <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Date: 01/04/2015 7:25 PM (GMT-08:00)
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: system abort
> > >
> > > Unfortunately the drive in question didn't show a fault and thus we
> > > have
> > no
> > > idea which drive to replace. And the bad sector message moved from
> > > ldev
> > 54
> > > to 56.
> > >
> > > Current status: so we tried to do an install using boot alt path and
> > still
> > > get the crash message, except now it doesn't show message "start
> > aggregate
> > > recovery of mpexl set" and goes directly to "userlog aggregate
> recovery"
> > > then aggregate recovery of private volume then crash message. Our
> > hardware
> > > guy and myself both of us with 20+ years on this platform have never
> > > seen this happen. What is causing this to crash? All devices show as
> > > being mounted, all paths are there, we are stumped. He will attempt
> > > to hook a different VA and bridge to see if that gets us past the
> crash.
> > >
> > > Keep the ideas coming please. Is a test server but ppl are
> > > waiting...but
> > I
> > > need sleep...
> > >
> > > Wes
> > > On Apr 1, 2015 5:03 PM, "Jack Connor"
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you got a bad sector message, Wes, doing the install is a waste
> > > > of
> > > time
> > > > if you didn't replace the failed drive.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > <[log in to unmask]>] On
> > > > Behalf Of Wes S
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 5:40 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate the help, been on this for 4 hours already and have
> > > > not received any viable solution. I just started the install
> > > > command from
> > > alt
> > > > boot path and rebuild it. Is test and just taking longer by waiting.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the help folks. LL MPE!
> > > > On Apr 1, 2015 4:07 PM, "Wes S" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yep, SCSI from processor to bridge, fiber from bridge to brocade
> > > > > switch, fiber from switch to VA.
> > > > >
> > > > > We brought system up in single disk mode and looking at sysgen.
> > > > > All ldevs are there.
> > > > > On Apr 1, 2015 4:02 PM, "Jim Maher" <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You should have a SCSI bridge. It’s a small box that converts
> > > > >> SCSI
> > to
> > > > >> fiber.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> *From:* Wes S [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > > > >> <[log in to unmask]>]
> > > > >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:59 PM
> > > > >> *To:* Jim Maher
> > > > >> *Cc:* [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> *Subject:* RE: [HP3000-L] system abort
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A6188A - 7100
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Apr 1, 2015 3:56 PM, "Jim Maher" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You said you are using a va array on a 969. What model? Also
> > > > >> are you using a SCSI/fc bridge?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> > <[log in to unmask]>] On
> > > > >> Behalf Of Wes S
> > > > >> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 1:51 PM
> > > > >> To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
> > > > >>
> > > > >> VA is in ready state. We have power cycled all the hardware,
> > > > >> had to bring it up in a particular order. Tried booting 5 or 6
> > > > >> times now
> > and
> > > > >> crashes when it gets to aggregate recovery of private volume set.
> > > > >> On Apr 1, 2015 3:48 PM, "Ryan C. Melander"
> > > > >> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > VA's can be finicky, I would reboot VA. Before reloading
> > anything.
> > > > >> > Is the VA in a ready state? Anything showing in the VA logs?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > -------- Original message --------
> > > > >> > From: Wes S <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >> > Date: 04/01/2015 1:44 PM (GMT-08:00)
> > > > >> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] system abort
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Mapper shows all devices are there. We did that a while
> > > > >> > ago...:) On Apr 1, 2015 3:42 PM, "Mark Ranft" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > The first thing I would do is BO PRI and instead of START
> > > > >> > > NORECOVERY. I would run ODE MAPPER. (Note: This is
> > > > >> > > MAPPER2 on
> > > > >> newer system).
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Hint: At ISL> prompt type 'RUN ODE MAPPER'
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Verify you can see all the disks you think you should see.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Mark Ranft
> > > > >> > > Pro 3K
> > > > >> > >
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