Thanks for the links, Jim.  I perused them both, and I learned some 
things.  It appears as though Moonshot is a shrunken blade 
server.  And reducing power consumption and footprint is 
important...it saves money and resources.  But aren't Sun and IBM 
promoting the same?  It was difficult to tell what was innovative, 
unique or patentable about Moonshot.  I'm not being critical, I'm 
giving a layman's opinion.  HP looks the same as everyone else.

Same with the SDN solution...I get product literature from IBM and 
they make the same claims.  Again, I'm not being critical or 
questionning your product knowledge.  I just find it hard to see what 
differentiates HP.  So then does it just become a marketing 
game?  Everyone is selling the same solutions, but who is better at 
selling?  Who's got more contacts in high places?  Who is better at 
retaining customers?

John Lee








At 11:47 AM 06/03/2013, Hawkins, Jim (ESSN TCE&Q) wrote:
>The hURD removed Invent from the logo and slashed 
>R&D.   Non-the-less HP is still inventing and you don't have to look 
>very hard to find lots of stuff which is new and industry leading. . .
>
>http://h30507.www3.hp.com/t5/HP-Networking/HP-Networking-SDN-solution-won-the-2013-Innovations-award/ba-p/139503
>
>http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/products/moonshot/index.aspx
>
>HP Discover is next week in Las Vegas -- my understanding is that 
>CNBC will be broadcasting live from the floor.   If you want to 
>learn what HP is really up to there's a good chance.
>
>Jim
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
>Behalf Of Denys Beauchemin
>Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:11 AM
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>I believe the pharmacist or his predecessor removed the Invent from the logo.
>
>Denys
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
>Behalf Of Michael Berkowitz
>Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 10:49 AM
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>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] Maybe this is why HP is down in the dumps
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>Impossible.  Doesn't the logo still say "HP" / Invent?
>
>Michael Berkowitz
>Project Manager, CGS Application Solutions
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>From:   John Lee <[log in to unmask]>
>To:     [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
>Date:   06/03/2013 08:45 AM
>Subject:        Re: [HP3000-L] Maybe this is why HP is down in the dumps
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>When was the last time HP introduced something innovative to the tech
>world?  I'm not being sarcastic, I'm serious...they stopped
>innovating.  Weren't the 1000 and 3000 product lines full of
>solutions for end users back in the day?  Where has that gone?  Was
>the LaserJet their last patent?  Maybe I'm missing some but I don't see
>it.
>
>John Lee
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> >It's a Friday afternoon and for some reason I googled Jeff Vance whom we
> >all have worked with previously.  First up is linkedin.  So I go to the
> >webpage, find that he's working for Red Hat, but also notice the "people
> >also viewed" column on the far right.  Lots of names from the past
> >
> >Mike Paivinen
> >Scott McClellan
> >Becky McBride
> >Craig Fairchild
> >Steve Macsisak
> >Stephen Watt
> >
> >Of that group, including Jeff, only 2 are at HP (Becky and Craig), the
> >company they might have thought they'd be employed for life
> >
> >Michael Berkowitz
> >Project Manager, CGS Application Solutions
> >5530 Corbin Ave  Suite 313
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