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I should have your post more carefully.

You DID say "volume sets" are/were supported.

Sorry, Denys.



At 12:48 PM 2011-10-04, Denys Beauchemin wrote:
>I am reposting this message as I was told that it appeared blank
>from the listserv.
>
>
>
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>Well, actually private volumes were never implemented on MPE/XL and
>MPE/iX.  They will not be implemented with the emulator.
>
>What the emulator does support are volume sets and we are working to
>make multiple volume sets available with the emulator.  Our current
>thinking is that using volume sets, it would be very possible and
>easy to do massive backups of the volume sets at very high rates of
>speed with the attendant speed of recovery.  We are also testing the
>use of STDs to other volume sets for more surgical recovery options.
>
>Private volumes died with MPE/V and they were never missed.
>
>Denys
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>Behalf Of [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:34 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] MPE on Intel hardware, thank you Stromasys
>
>Dave,
>
>Can't speak for others - but I've always considered it 'best
>practice' to divide your disk storage up into several 'Private
>Volumes'.  Why?  When a non-mirrored spindle in a PV dies, it only
>takes that PV out with it - allowing the rest of the machine running
>(unless the PV is the 'mpe_system_volume_set, in which case you're
>going to be doing a system install).  If it's only one of the data
>volumes that goes down - the 'system' is still up, greatly
>facilitating recovery.
>
>If you can't afford arrays that protect the 'system' volume-set, at
>least you can get something (even if only Mirror/iX for RAID-1) to
>protect the data volumes.  And if you configure it properly
>-  RAID-1 is wicked-fast on reads, and pretty decent on writes.
>
>Oh - and to answer your original question:  Yes, A400's can be set
>up this way.  At least, the ones I administer are setup this
>way.  The drives 'in the CPU chassis' are setup as "system volume
>set", and an external mirrored array is the 'data' volume.
>
>Works great.  If the system volume goes down - data isn't likely
>affected.  If a mirrored drive fails - just swap it for a
>replacement.  This has gotten my client near 100% up-time for this
>system, for almost 10yrs now...
>
>Hope this answers at least some of your question(s).
>
>Brian Edminster
>Applied Technologies, Inc
>"Robust Solutions and Integrations,
>    for Today, and Tomorrow"
>
>Proud Sponsor of: www.MPE-OpenSource.org
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HP System Administration Specialists
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