Hello Dave, 

You are correct...

The reason to not put network start commands into sysstart.pub.sys is that
there may be circumstances where some kernel data structures are not present
in time for network startup.

In the past this drove some System Aborts... or if you were lucky it was
just the case where the network did not startup, generating some non-human
readable scary errors.

The recommendation is to put your network startup commands in a job
netstart.jobs.sys... 

- Start the network interfaces.
- Start the loop.
- Start NS services if you use them.
- Start ARPA services if you use them.
- Start other network/socket applications if you have/use them.

Likewise you want a job netstop.jobs.sys...

- Stop network/socket applications.
- Stop ARPA services.
- Stop NS services.
- Stop network transport.

Peace,
  James Hofmeister


-----Original Message-----
From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Dave Powell, MMfab
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] What should sysstart.pub.sys have in it to ensure
the network connection is up?

My sysstart streams another job to start the network because I heard 
somewhere that was better.  Don't recall why.  Maybe someone else can 
elaborate.

Anyway the other job says

!NETCONTROL START;NET=LOOP
!NETCONTROL START;NET=LAN1
!NSCONTROL START
!RUN STMSTART.DIAG.SYS
!TELLOP NETWORK IS STARTED!!!


I don't run jinetd at all -- don't need anything it does.  You  may not need

the stmstart.

Not sure which net/ns command does what.  Those 3 are the magic incantations

done by the guy we got our 1st pa-risc machine from in 1994.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Chance" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 18:04
Subject: [HP3000-L] What should sysstart.pub.sys have in it to ensure the 
network connection is up?


Anything else?

This assu
NSCONTROL ?
stream jinetd.net.sys ?

Anything else?

This assumes that nmmgr is setup. Hardware is in place. Ping is successful. 
And sysgen is OK.




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