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Well the job got its tape Yesterday, so that should be water under the
bridge.

Tracy Johnson
Office 1-757-766-4318
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ron Horner
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:39 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> 
> I'm thinking that something is holding BACKG up from 
> streaming these jobs.
> The timing of the issue tells me that there isn't something 
> to fix, other
> than make sure your backups don't require an additional tape. 
>  It could be
> that the backup starts sucking resources until you respond 
> with the added
> tape.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Johnson, Tracy
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> 
> Yes we have such a product.  I would have used it a crunch 
> time if I had
> been more aware.
> 
> Although I'm more curious as to the state of affairs.  What's keeping
> these jobs in a SCHED state past due?
> 
> On the other hand maybe I don't want to know.  The idea of Yesterday's
> jobs suddendly launching should I 'fix' something looms in my mind.  I
> should probably abort them sooner than later.
> 
> Tracy Johnson
> Office 1-757-766-4318
> [log in to unmask] 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ron Horner
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:58 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > 
> > True, you might have a performance problem when the backup 
> > job requests
> > another tape.  Do you have something that can report on 
> your system's
> > performance?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of Johnson, Tracy
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:48 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > 
> > Oh yeah, the BACKG job is running.  
> > 
> > I think the users would be screaming bloody murder at HELLO 
> time if it
> > wasn't, since that's one of the other things it does.
> > 
> > Perhaps the BACKG job may have been "under pressure" and 
> skipped a few
> > heatbeats when the weekend backup was waiting for the 
> (heretofore not
> > yet occurred) 2nd tape before the 2nd tape was inserted on Monday?
> > 
> > Tracy Johnson
> > Office 1-757-766-4318
> > [log in to unmask] 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ron Horner
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:40 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > > 
> > > A question for you. Is the BACKG background job running when 
> > > you do your
> > > backup?  This is important to know because the jobs that you 
> > > can't see under
> > > plan old MPE, are under the control of VESOFT's BACKG.  If 
> > > the job is not
> > > running, these scheduled jobs will not stream.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > > Of Johnson, Tracy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:54 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > > 
> > > This happens only once in a long time.  Before I abort them 
> > > (as that is
> > > the solution), I have some jobs in a SCHED state, viewable 
> > > only in MPEX
> > > as a standard MPE showjob will not display them.  I think 
> I know the
> > > cause, which was the weekend backup job waiting for a 2nd 
> > tape using a
> > > 3rd party online backup solution.  Now that job is long gone.
> > > 
> > > What I'm curious to know is what is the state whence MPE 
> > > thinks it needs
> > > to retain these past due jobs?
> > > 
> > > I'll abort these jobs at the end of today, in the meantime 
> > listers may
> > > pepper me with "try this" queries.
> > > 
> > > /SYS/PUB%>listjob @,@.@&sched
> > > JOB#    STATE     DEV   INTRODUCED  Q PROGRAM  LOGON
> > > 
> > > #J14527 SCHED  HI       MON  4:25P  04/19/10
> > > BACKASIA,MANAGER.ASIA,PUB60
> > > #J14877 SCHED   8       MON  9:55A  04/19/10
> > > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB55
> > > #J14878 SCHED   8       MON  3:55P  04/19/10   OMUT777,same
> > > #J14879 SCHED   8       MON  9:05P  04/19/10   OMUT777,same
> > > #J15549 SCHED   8            3:55P             OMUT777,same
> > > #J15605 SCHED   8            8:50P
> > > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB75
> > > #J15550 SCHED   8            9:05P
> > > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB55
> > > #J15763 SCHED   8            5:48P
> > > QDRPNOTE,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB75
> > > #J15387 SCHED  HI       WED  2:25A  04/21/10
> > > BACKEURO,MANAGER.EUROPE,PUB55
> > > #J14853 SCHED   8       MON 11:14A  04/19/10   ILFDELE,same
> > > #J14444 SCHED   8       MON  3:45A  04/19/10   
> > OMUT777,JBSTRM.JL,PUB45
> > > #J14445 SCHED   8       MON  9:45A  04/19/10   OMUT777,same
> > > #J14442 SCHED   8       MON  4:45P  04/19/10   OMUT777,same
> > > #J14443 SCHED   8       MON  9:45P  04/19/10   OMUT777,same
> > > #J15299 SCHED   8            4:45P             OMUT777,same
> > > #J15300 SCHED   8            9:45P             OMUT777,same
> > > #J14654 SCHED   8       MON  4:00A  04/19/10   
> > > QTCUSPN,JBSTRM45.JL,PUB45
> > > #J14772 SCHED   8       MON  5:55A  04/19/10   QTCUSPN,same
> > > #J14655 SCHED   8       MON  2:00P  04/19/10   QTCUSPN,same
> > > #J15700 SCHED   8            5:55P             QTCUSPN,same
> > > #J14426 SCHED  HI       MON  3:55P  04/19/10   
> > > BACKUP45,MANAGER.JL,PUB45
> > > #J15209 SCHED  HI            3:55P             BACKUP45,same
> > > #J14647 SCHED   8       MON  5:00A  04/19/10   CPYDRPNH,same
> > > #J14773 SCHED   8       MON  6:00A  04/19/10   QDRPNOTC,same
> > > #J15701 SCHED   8            6:00P             QDRPNOTC,same
> > > #J14771 SCHED   8       MON  5:50A  04/19/10   QPODES00,same
> > > #J15699 SCHED   8            5:50P             QPODES00,same
> > > #J14984 SCHED   8       MON  6:00A  04/19/10
> > > LOADWIP,JBSTRM.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J14866 SCHED   8       MON  9:30P  04/19/10   QCREDINV,same
> > > #J15501 SCHED   8           10:00P
> > > APNTLYV,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J12778 SCHED   8       MON  5:00A  04/19/10   MGRE105,same
> > > #J14841 SCHED   8       MON 10:00P  04/19/10   MMSCHED,same
> > > #J15367 SCHED   8           10:30P             MMSCHED,same
> > > #J15494 SCHED   8            4:30P             OMUT777,same
> > > #J15432 SCHED   8            4:40P
> > > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > > #J15495 SCHED   8       WED  2:14A  04/21/10
> > > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J15431 SCHED   8       WED  2:22A  04/21/10
> > > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > > #J15749 SCHED   8            3:49P
> > > OPTLOAD,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J15434 SCHED   8           11:00P
> > > QCREDINV,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > > #J15485 SCHED   8            8:30P
> > > QDROPNOT,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J15499 SCHED   8            6:15P             QHBSOINV,same
> > > #J15500 SCHED   8            9:30P             QHBSOINV,same
> > > #J15480 SCHED   8           10:25P             QPOSOCPN,same
> > > #J15488 SCHED   8            8:45P             QPROTORC,same
> > > #J15482 SCHED   8           11:59P             QROYALT,same
> > > #J14814 SCHED   8           12:02A             
> > FAXMGR,MGR.STR,FAX3000
> > > #J15758 SCHED   8            3:49P             
> > CLEANLP,MANAGER.SYS,PUB
> > > #J14641 SCHED   8       MON  5:03A  04/19/10   CPSPASIA,same
> > > #J14446 SCHED   8       MON  4:14A  04/19/10   CPSPJL,same
> > > #J14838 SCHED   8       MON  4:00A  04/19/10   ERRCHECK,same
> > > #J15667 SCHED  HI       WED  5:31A  04/21/10   NITEOPER,same
> > > 
> > > JOBFENCE = 1; JLIMIT = 75; SLIMIT = 500
> > > 
> > > Tracy Johnson
> > > Business Analyst
> > > Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> > > 1000 Lucas Way
> > > Hampton, VA 23666
> > > Office 1-757-766-4318
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > www.meas-spec.com
> > > 
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