It's true that normally you would want to shut down jobs like BACKG when
doing a backup.  My thought is that online backups negate that need.

 

From: Todd Niedringhaus [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:02 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Subject: RE: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due

 

 
The BACKG job should not be running during the backup.
 
I can't represent whether this is causing you problem or not.
 
However, VESOFT cautions that you should stop BACKG prior to the backup
because several of the tasks may be accessing control files.
 
Here is a quote from the documentation:
 
(Stopping the BACKG job for a backup is important because several of the
tasks may have control files or the SECURG file open while they run.)
 
> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:58:09 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> True, you might have a performance problem when the backup job requests
> another tape. Do you have something that can report on your system's
> performance?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Johnson, Tracy
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:48 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> 
> Oh yeah, the BACKG job is running. 
> 
> I think the users would be screaming bloody murder at HELLO time if it
> wasn't, since that's one of the other things it does.
> 
> Perhaps the BACKG job may have been "under pressure" and skipped a few
> heatbeats when the weekend backup was waiting for the (heretofore not
> yet occurred) 2nd tape before the 2nd tape was inserted on Monday?
> 
> Tracy Johnson
> Office 1-757-766-4318
> [log in to unmask] 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ron Horner
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:40 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > 
> > A question for you. Is the BACKG background job running when 
> > you do your
> > backup? This is important to know because the jobs that you 
> > can't see under
> > plan old MPE, are under the control of VESOFT's BACKG. If 
> > the job is not
> > running, these scheduled jobs will not stream.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion 
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of Johnson, Tracy
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:54 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > 
> > This happens only once in a long time. Before I abort them 
> > (as that is
> > the solution), I have some jobs in a SCHED state, viewable 
> > only in MPEX
> > as a standard MPE showjob will not display them. I think I know the
> > cause, which was the weekend backup job waiting for a 2nd tape using a
> > 3rd party online backup solution. Now that job is long gone.
> > 
> > What I'm curious to know is what is the state whence MPE 
> > thinks it needs
> > to retain these past due jobs?
> > 
> > I'll abort these jobs at the end of today, in the meantime listers may
> > pepper me with "try this" queries.
> > 
> > /SYS/PUB%>listjob @,@.@&sched
> > JOB# STATE DEV INTRODUCED Q PROGRAM LOGON
> > 
> > #J14527 SCHED HI MON 4:25P 04/19/10
> > BACKASIA,MANAGER.ASIA,PUB60
> > #J14877 SCHED 8 MON 9:55A 04/19/10
> > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB55
> > #J14878 SCHED 8 MON 3:55P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > #J14879 SCHED 8 MON 9:05P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > #J15549 SCHED 8 3:55P OMUT777,same
> > #J15605 SCHED 8 8:50P
> > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB75
> > #J15550 SCHED 8 9:05P
> > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB55
> > #J15763 SCHED 8 5:48P
> > QDRPNOTE,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB75
> > #J15387 SCHED HI WED 2:25A 04/21/10
> > BACKEURO,MANAGER.EUROPE,PUB55
> > #J14853 SCHED 8 MON 11:14A 04/19/10 ILFDELE,same
> > #J14444 SCHED 8 MON 3:45A 04/19/10 OMUT777,JBSTRM.JL,PUB45
> > #J14445 SCHED 8 MON 9:45A 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > #J14442 SCHED 8 MON 4:45P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > #J14443 SCHED 8 MON 9:45P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > #J15299 SCHED 8 4:45P OMUT777,same
> > #J15300 SCHED 8 9:45P OMUT777,same
> > #J14654 SCHED 8 MON 4:00A 04/19/10 
> > QTCUSPN,JBSTRM45.JL,PUB45
> > #J14772 SCHED 8 MON 5:55A 04/19/10 QTCUSPN,same
> > #J14655 SCHED 8 MON 2:00P 04/19/10 QTCUSPN,same
> > #J15700 SCHED 8 5:55P QTCUSPN,same
> > #J14426 SCHED HI MON 3:55P 04/19/10 
> > BACKUP45,MANAGER.JL,PUB45
> > #J15209 SCHED HI 3:55P BACKUP45,same
> > #J14647 SCHED 8 MON 5:00A 04/19/10 CPYDRPNH,same
> > #J14773 SCHED 8 MON 6:00A 04/19/10 QDRPNOTC,same
> > #J15701 SCHED 8 6:00P QDRPNOTC,same
> > #J14771 SCHED 8 MON 5:50A 04/19/10 QPODES00,same
> > #J15699 SCHED 8 5:50P QPODES00,same
> > #J14984 SCHED 8 MON 6:00A 04/19/10
> > LOADWIP,JBSTRM.MMV090,PUBAS
> > #J14866 SCHED 8 MON 9:30P 04/19/10 QCREDINV,same
> > #J15501 SCHED 8 10:00P
> > APNTLYV,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > #J12778 SCHED 8 MON 5:00A 04/19/10 MGRE105,same
> > #J14841 SCHED 8 MON 10:00P 04/19/10 MMSCHED,same
> > #J15367 SCHED 8 10:30P MMSCHED,same
> > #J15494 SCHED 8 4:30P OMUT777,same
> > #J15432 SCHED 8 4:40P
> > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > #J15495 SCHED 8 WED 2:14A 04/21/10
> > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > #J15431 SCHED 8 WED 2:22A 04/21/10
> > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > #J15749 SCHED 8 3:49P
> > OPTLOAD,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > #J15434 SCHED 8 11:00P
> > QCREDINV,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > #J15485 SCHED 8 8:30P
> > QDROPNOT,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > #J15499 SCHED 8 6:15P QHBSOINV,same
> > #J15500 SCHED 8 9:30P QHBSOINV,same
> > #J15480 SCHED 8 10:25P QPOSOCPN,same
> > #J15488 SCHED 8 8:45P QPROTORC,same
> > #J15482 SCHED 8 11:59P QROYALT,same
> > #J14814 SCHED 8 12:02A FAXMGR,MGR.STR,FAX3000
> > #J15758 SCHED 8 3:49P CLEANLP,MANAGER.SYS,PUB
> > #J14641 SCHED 8 MON 5:03A 04/19/10 CPSPASIA,same
> > #J14446 SCHED 8 MON 4:14A 04/19/10 CPSPJL,same
> > #J14838 SCHED 8 MON 4:00A 04/19/10 ERRCHECK,same
> > #J15667 SCHED HI WED 5:31A 04/21/10 NITEOPER,same
> > 
> > JOBFENCE = 1; JLIMIT = 75; SLIMIT = 500
> > 
> > Tracy Johnson
> > Business Analyst
> > Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> > 1000 Lucas Way
> > Hampton, VA 23666
> > Office 1-757-766-4318
> > [log in to unmask]
> > www.meas-spec.com
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