Well, there you go. Thanks.
Tracy Johnson
Office 1-757-766-4318
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Todd Niedringhaus
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
>
>
>
> The BACKG job should not be running during the backup.
>
> I can't represent whether this is causing you problem or not.
>
> However, VESOFT cautions that you should stop BACKG prior to
> the backup because several of the tasks may be accessing
> control files.
>
>
>
> Here is a quote from the documentation:
>
>
>
> (Stopping the BACKG job for a backup is important because
> several of the tasks may have control files or the SECURG
> file open while they run.)
>
> > Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:58:09 -0500
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > True, you might have a performance problem when the backup
> job requests
> > another tape. Do you have something that can report on your system's
> > performance?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of Johnson, Tracy
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:48 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> >
> > Oh yeah, the BACKG job is running.
> >
> > I think the users would be screaming bloody murder at HELLO
> time if it
> > wasn't, since that's one of the other things it does.
> >
> > Perhaps the BACKG job may have been "under pressure" and
> skipped a few
> > heatbeats when the weekend backup was waiting for the
> (heretofore not
> > yet occurred) 2nd tape before the 2nd tape was inserted on Monday?
> >
> > Tracy Johnson
> > Office 1-757-766-4318
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ron Horner
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 12:40 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: [HP3000-L] [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > >
> > > A question for you. Is the BACKG background job running when
> > > you do your
> > > backup? This is important to know because the jobs that you
> > > can't see under
> > > plan old MPE, are under the control of VESOFT's BACKG. If
> > > the job is not
> > > running, these scheduled jobs will not stream.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > > Of Johnson, Tracy
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:54 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: [On Topic] Sched Jobs Past Due
> > >
> > > This happens only once in a long time. Before I abort them
> > > (as that is
> > > the solution), I have some jobs in a SCHED state, viewable
> > > only in MPEX
> > > as a standard MPE showjob will not display them. I think
> I know the
> > > cause, which was the weekend backup job waiting for a 2nd
> tape using a
> > > 3rd party online backup solution. Now that job is long gone.
> > >
> > > What I'm curious to know is what is the state whence MPE
> > > thinks it needs
> > > to retain these past due jobs?
> > >
> > > I'll abort these jobs at the end of today, in the
> meantime listers may
> > > pepper me with "try this" queries.
> > >
> > > /SYS/PUB%>listjob @,@.@&sched
> > > JOB# STATE DEV INTRODUCED Q PROGRAM LOGON
> > >
> > > #J14527 SCHED HI MON 4:25P 04/19/10
> > > BACKASIA,MANAGER.ASIA,PUB60
> > > #J14877 SCHED 8 MON 9:55A 04/19/10
> > > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB55
> > > #J14878 SCHED 8 MON 3:55P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > > #J14879 SCHED 8 MON 9:05P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > > #J15549 SCHED 8 3:55P OMUT777,same
> > > #J15605 SCHED 8 8:50P
> > > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB75
> > > #J15550 SCHED 8 9:05P
> > > OMUT777,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB55
> > > #J15763 SCHED 8 5:48P
> > > QDRPNOTE,JBSTRM.EUROPE,PUB75
> > > #J15387 SCHED HI WED 2:25A 04/21/10
> > > BACKEURO,MANAGER.EUROPE,PUB55
> > > #J14853 SCHED 8 MON 11:14A 04/19/10 ILFDELE,same
> > > #J14444 SCHED 8 MON 3:45A 04/19/10 OMUT777,JBSTRM.JL,PUB45
> > > #J14445 SCHED 8 MON 9:45A 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > > #J14442 SCHED 8 MON 4:45P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > > #J14443 SCHED 8 MON 9:45P 04/19/10 OMUT777,same
> > > #J15299 SCHED 8 4:45P OMUT777,same
> > > #J15300 SCHED 8 9:45P OMUT777,same
> > > #J14654 SCHED 8 MON 4:00A 04/19/10
> > > QTCUSPN,JBSTRM45.JL,PUB45
> > > #J14772 SCHED 8 MON 5:55A 04/19/10 QTCUSPN,same
> > > #J14655 SCHED 8 MON 2:00P 04/19/10 QTCUSPN,same
> > > #J15700 SCHED 8 5:55P QTCUSPN,same
> > > #J14426 SCHED HI MON 3:55P 04/19/10
> > > BACKUP45,MANAGER.JL,PUB45
> > > #J15209 SCHED HI 3:55P BACKUP45,same
> > > #J14647 SCHED 8 MON 5:00A 04/19/10 CPYDRPNH,same
> > > #J14773 SCHED 8 MON 6:00A 04/19/10 QDRPNOTC,same
> > > #J15701 SCHED 8 6:00P QDRPNOTC,same
> > > #J14771 SCHED 8 MON 5:50A 04/19/10 QPODES00,same
> > > #J15699 SCHED 8 5:50P QPODES00,same
> > > #J14984 SCHED 8 MON 6:00A 04/19/10
> > > LOADWIP,JBSTRM.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J14866 SCHED 8 MON 9:30P 04/19/10 QCREDINV,same
> > > #J15501 SCHED 8 10:00P
> > > APNTLYV,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J12778 SCHED 8 MON 5:00A 04/19/10 MGRE105,same
> > > #J14841 SCHED 8 MON 10:00P 04/19/10 MMSCHED,same
> > > #J15367 SCHED 8 10:30P MMSCHED,same
> > > #J15494 SCHED 8 4:30P OMUT777,same
> > > #J15432 SCHED 8 4:40P
> > > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > > #J15495 SCHED 8 WED 2:14A 04/21/10
> > > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J15431 SCHED 8 WED 2:22A 04/21/10
> > > OMUT777,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > > #J15749 SCHED 8 3:49P
> > > OPTLOAD,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J15434 SCHED 8 11:00P
> > > QCREDINV,MANAGER.MMV090,PUB15
> > > #J15485 SCHED 8 8:30P
> > > QDROPNOT,MANAGER.MMV090,PUBAS
> > > #J15499 SCHED 8 6:15P QHBSOINV,same
> > > #J15500 SCHED 8 9:30P QHBSOINV,same
> > > #J15480 SCHED 8 10:25P QPOSOCPN,same
> > > #J15488 SCHED 8 8:45P QPROTORC,same
> > > #J15482 SCHED 8 11:59P QROYALT,same
> > > #J14814 SCHED 8 12:02A FAXMGR,MGR.STR,FAX3000
> > > #J15758 SCHED 8 3:49P CLEANLP,MANAGER.SYS,PUB
> > > #J14641 SCHED 8 MON 5:03A 04/19/10 CPSPASIA,same
> > > #J14446 SCHED 8 MON 4:14A 04/19/10 CPSPJL,same
> > > #J14838 SCHED 8 MON 4:00A 04/19/10 ERRCHECK,same
> > > #J15667 SCHED HI WED 5:31A 04/21/10 NITEOPER,same
> > >
> > > JOBFENCE = 1; JLIMIT = 75; SLIMIT = 500
> > >
> > > Tracy Johnson
> > > Business Analyst
> > > Measurement Specialties, Inc.
> > > 1000 Lucas Way
> > > Hampton, VA 23666
> > > Office 1-757-766-4318
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > www.meas-spec.com
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