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Re: Status of Java on HP 3000
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Jeff Kubler <[log in to unmask]>
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Jeff Kubler <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:13:16 -0700
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Charles,
Sounds like you have the final word as no one has further comments.
Thanks,
Jeff Kubler
At 08:42 AM 10/6/2008, Charles Finley wrote:
>Hopefully, someone with more knowledge about this will respond also.  Still,
>for what it's worth, here are my opinions and observations:
>
>1) The latest version I've seen is 1.3 (do not confuse that with 1.3.1 which
>is a more useful level) JAVA is now up to 1.7 (aka 7.0) with 1.6 (aka 6.0)
>and 1.5 (aka 5.0) being the widest use versions.
>
>2) There are some native pieces to JAVA that are proprietary to HP.  It does
>not seem to be possible to port a newer version to the HP 3000 without
>access to those sources and when it was last discussed in my presence, HP
>was unwilling to give anyone access to the code.
>
>3) By MPE standards, JAVA is a resource hog.  It runs slowly on the HP 3000.
>
>
>4) One key motivation for using JAVA is the wide availability of code from
>others.  There is a shrinking body of code around that is compatible with
>JAVA 1.3.
>
>5) Compared to other platforms. The documentation on how to use JAVA on the
>HP 3000 is sparse.
>
>6) There was never a decent version of X development tools available on the
>HP 3000 so the graphical tools are not available on the HP 3000.
>
>We have used JAVA on the HP 3000 to do a few little tasks and the version
>that is there is still useful to an extent.  That said, we use JAVA on
>Windows, Linux, HP-UX, etc. and there are many things one is able to do with
>JAVA that is not possible with JAVA on the HP 3000.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Charles Finley
>619-795-0720
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: HP-3000 Systems Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of Jeff Kubler
> > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:19 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Status of Java on HP 3000
> >
> > >To all;
> >
> > I would like to hear about the status of JAVA on HP 3000.
> > I have seen some discussion about it on the list in the past.  I
> > understand that it is usually a level or two behind the general level
> > and does run on the HP 3000.  What experience have users had with
> > Java on the HP 3000?
> > Thanks,
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > Jeff Kubler
> > Kubler Consulting, Inc.
> > 541-745-7457
> > [log in to unmask]
> > www.kublerconsulting.com
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Jeff Kubler
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